What the doppler scan showed on Scott

2007-11-30 21:57:50

Both carotid arteries are 40% blocked (according to the man who administered the test). Someone else will read the scan again and make a final decision and send the results on to Scott's cardiac doc. He said doctors don't (and my sister and the internet sites I've found concur) do anything until there is a 70% blockage. They won't do surgery either if it's totally blocked. So for now we just wait. At this point my biggest concern is that he will have one of the TIA's while he's driving. Nina

Rita

2007-11-30 15:21:28

Hi Rita, your weddings sound lovely. In 2004, almost anything goes as far as weddings, times have changed a lot, since we walked down that aisle, we just have to welcome and accept whatever is going on, if we don't mom and dads are the ones that will lose out for the future. I think we all have to push a little, then we get tried and then have a nap, then ready to go again... like I've been doing yard work, raking and blowing, gathering pine cones, twigs, and leaves, only took a week, but I'm done !! Tired. dirty and happy that I was able to do that!! Take care, Donna in Roseville, MN

Eating - lost 40 lbs already

2007-11-30 14:56:32

Hello JR. This is in response to your message regarding your dad's inability to eat. I don't know if I have an answer for you, but it might be worth asking your doctors about a possible reaction to a medication. It could even be a very uncommon reaction that does not appear in the product literature. A few days after my quintuple bypass surgery in Sept. of 2002, the medication Imdur was prescribed for me. Within a day, my sense of taste and smell started to go berserk. At first I attributed it to the morphine from the surgery & thought it would just go away. It didn't. It got worse. Everything that I could taste or smell had one sensation - I called it "smaste" for lack of a better word. Mop water, food, my own skin, flowers - all had this same foul sensation. Within a day I could no longer eat food, and I had trouble choking down water. The only change in my treatment had been the addition of Imdur, so after a few days of no food, I requested that the Imdur be discontinued. I think the surgeon thought that I was just being wimpy, and said that I could die without the medication. I said that I didn't care, because I was going to die from starvation anyway. Even now, I can't find the words to describe the terribleness of "smaste," but even though I don't think that the doctor believed me, he finally agreed to discontinue the medication. Within a day, my normal sense of taste & smell started to return, and I was discharged from the hospital. The morning after my discharge from the hospital, I passed out & ended up back in the hospital ( a different hospital). Dehydration (no kidding) and too much blood pressure medication was believed to be the cause by another doctor. I think that they could have added "early stage of starvation." to the list. The thing that really nailed the problem down in my mind is when the new doctor somewhat irritatedly asked who put something like "reaction to Imdur" on my chart & asked me if I would start taking the medication again. I agreed to try it again because I wanted to be absolutely sure that the Imdur was the problem in case anyone tried to prescribe it again when I might be too ill to protest. To make a long story a little bit shorter, the same foulness returned, & the Imdur was discontinued. To this day, I think that the doctors thought that I was overreacting, and would not believe how serious a disrupted sense of taste & smell could be. The point of this long, somewhat drawn-out story is that we all react somewhat differently to different medications, and just because a doctor hasn't heard of a certain reaction and it's not on the drug company's list, doesn't mean that it can't occur. My problem may not relate to your father's, but it might be worth exploring. Good Luck. Art

Donna

2007-11-30 10:36:14

Hi Donna... Well my dear friend... one wedding out of the way....oooohh we had a wonderfull time..but someting funny happen last nite Nino and Mary have a little dog named Bubu. (pommerinien)...do you know what they did... they came back and gat hime... they missed him..LOL...he is like their kid you know....Mary and Nino have lived together for over 2 yrs... they are expecting a baby in December... so they both wanted to be married... for us it was OK... becouse we thought of them as married already anyway...It was about 25 guests all together...small and wonderfull We have been married for 30 yrs.... so this yr...2 weddings... next one July 31... Daughter is getting married then...she is also graduating college this yr...BS degree in Teaching..... Teaching English Highshool kids... Now my daughters wedding... it will be about 160- about 200 guests... Good thing l will have a lot help ...l would not able to do it witout that... My furture son in-laws family knows l am not able to do all this so they have ship in with aunts uncles...infact the whole family...It is going to be out in the country on their Farm...l am so thankfull for that help and understanding you know l was realy tired after it all last nite....first time in a long time l realy slept good... We had a realy summerday here.... 88.. and so windy...better thismorning winds died down and 72...sunny....l love hearing all the birds singin outside again... My daughter Carla took about 8 rolls of film yesterday... l will post some on the site later... l have to admitt... a little tired this morning... but feel god otherwise... hugzz to all.... Rita

Makes you want to go hmmmmmmm !

2007-11-30 07:22:06

Sure. Why not? But they should also start posting warnings about placebos according to those tests. The more important point is that no such warning label is required for the concoction they're selling. Warning: Use of this product could be hazardous to your wallet! They've as much as said you should take this witch's brew instead of Lipitor, but they present no studies at all or even a specific ingredients list. I'll stick to my generic Lovastatin for now, thanks. At least we have an idea what it does - good or bad.

Eating - lost 40lbs already

2007-11-30 01:57:46

My dad had triple bypass in february and he hasn't been able to eat since. MAYBE he eats 2-300 calories per day. We've tried just about everything, he complains about the same thing - everything tastes awful. Doctors told him to just "force himself" which he's trying to do now but it always results in vomiting. Lately he can't even smell foods w/o having to vomit - it's getting scarry... 40 lbs in about 6 weeks. He also has diabetes which might complicate things more. He gets incredible headaches after eating - I think it has to do with blood sugar but none of the doctors have a clue - not about the headache, loss of appetite, or vomiting... Any ideas?? -jr

Chest Inflammation

2007-11-29 16:16:19

I'm on my 13th month post op "cabg". I have had chest pain the whole period. I have taken all the meds that you all have taken without any results. I'm having a CT scan done friday morning,will let you know the results next week. Take the chest pain away and I would feel great,it really gets intense late in the day. From what I can gather,post op chest pain is more prevalent in the over 50 age group,then with the younger "cabg" patch people. I know some men in their late 30's early 40's that have sailed thru this operation with barely any chest pain at all. Don't have any stats on women.Use of the mamannary vein seems to be the cause of most chest pain in the people I've met at rehab and other places. I wish all of you good health and speedy recoveries.....Mac

Inflammation of the chest

2007-11-29 03:34:03

Hello Des...from S.A.. l am Rita in Kansas City..Missouri ...#.1. bypass in 98 and #.2.bypass in 2000.. Nice to meet you... Hugzz Rita in Mo

Hello/barb

2007-11-29 03:11:04

In a message dated 4/11/2004 8:01:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, barbj2272@... writes: HI, I am not a very active member but I do read the posts everyday. Still wondering if anyone is still experiencing shortness of breath after coronary bypass surgery. My surgery was 3 years ago and have never recovered from the shortness of breath. Barb yes barb I am after 2 years ... they have now diagnosed it as COPD have you tried for a diagnosis .. ? what does the Dr say? Rose

Fwd: [Fwd: FYI]this is humor from my brother

2007-11-28 21:28:51

Happy easter losing her ribbons as well as her whiskers formerly Countess Talks Too Much

Ann Ray Digest Number 950

2007-11-28 13:07:09

Hi Ann Ray You might want to look at the lymphedema sites. Naturally I deleted mine except for the breast cancer/lympedema sites. However, I know that the legs can be affected with permanent swelling. But I think that there are things that you can do to lessen the swelling. Any way, another place to research. losing her ribbons as well as her whiskers formerly Countess Talks Too Much

out of town

2007-11-28 10:31:26

hi group just to let you know i have went no mail until tuesday as we are going out of town.everyone have a blessed EASTER robyn Children from broken homes,should not have to live broken lives.GOD never looses track of his children.Children spell love: T-I-M-E. Yours, give it freely.

statins aids in the spread of another disease

2007-11-28 06:52:56

I heard a radio talk show early this morning where there was a dr. talking abuot statins. He stated that until 1979 heart disease was not dubbed the #1 killer in the country. That was when the statins starting appearing on the scene. He said that there is nothing within statins that makes them good for anyone taking them. He spoke of the neuropathy and myopathy issues that are abundant with those taking them. In fact, he stated that because of statins, there has been a tremendous increase in another disease that is making big news across the country for the past several years. Alzheimer's Disease! He said that because the brain is made up of cholesterol, the statins has destroyed parts of the brain and increased the numbers of cases of AD over the years. Now remember, I didn't say this, this dr. did. I have not done the research on the web about it but it does make sense on first glance. Just wanted to pass this along as some interesting news I heard. Ed Owner - SupplementsForAHealthyHeart Group

2 years and still ticking

2007-11-28 00:03:41

I had a stress/echo the other day and the cardiologist said I was fit as a fiddle. No problems showed up during the test. AS with others on the list they used my mammary artery and I have some chest pain. I experienced some pain during the treadmill run but the cardiologist said it was probably muscular because everything looked fine. Ken

Not doing so well

2007-11-27 16:20:45

Hi Sandy, sorry to hear about your troubles. I'm not sure why but my heart went out to you when I read your post. I had a four way bypass about ten years ago and it was rough. Since then I've had a few stints put in about two years ago. I've got an old saying I like to repeat to myself when it gets rough. This too will pass. I don't know if you are a believer or not but regardless I will pray for you. Take care. Larry

Palpatations

2007-11-27 10:41:55

Anyone who experienced pericarditis or dressler's syndrome did you also experience palpatations. Gail

inflammation in my chest.

2007-11-27 06:49:53

Hi Des.... Lost appetite l did for a long time.. infact l lost over 20 lb.... But l was one of the lucky onse that did not get any infections afterwords.. Sorry that hppens to you.. Rita in Missouri

Tried to change my e-mail addy

2007-11-26 21:36:20

l tried and tried and tried again to change my e-mail addy ...it want do it..my e-mail is NO more...So l want get any posts from you no more except when l come here directely to the board....grgrgrgr My new e-mail addy is piraniold@... l will try tomorrow again....grgrgr... Hugzz Rita in Missouri

Berkeley Heart Lab

2007-11-26 10:51:08

I just got back my results and confused on what to do. The cardio said lose weight. I looked him in the eye and told him he was crazy. Im 5ft7 in at 144. I do the tredmill thing and told him my heart rate does not go up. He said he didnt want it to thats why all the meds. Just a nice medium walk. Anyway for those that know a heck of a lot more than me heres the results of a 980.00 blood test. Comments would be appreciated Total Col. 161 LDL-C 80 HDL-C 40 Triglycerides 205 (He said this was way to high) Apo B 85 ApoB Particle 74 Lipoprotein 2 Apo E Genotype 3/3 Fibrinogen 459 ----another problem C Reactive Prtein 0.20 Homocysteine 99 Insulin 13 - ----borderline problem LDL-S GGE 27.1 - - - - - - - -problem (I have no idea what this HDL2b 23 HDL2a 30 HDL3a 33 HDL3b14 HDL3C 1 From what Im reading if correctly I never stood a chance of not getting a CABG....If anyone has any imput it would really help. I refused to take more meds. There is no magic pill. Thanks to all and many good days Stannis

lab results

2007-11-26 10:05:23

oops what a difference a decimal makes. The homcystein is 9.9..What the major concern was the fibrinogen and the triglycerides...Anyone know how to bring those numbers down???

Diet vs Genes

2007-11-26 02:03:33

Dear Rich and Joe, Concerning the comments on "Diet vs Genes" = Dr. Dean Ornish patients were often heart patients who were sent home to die, because medical science had nothing left to offer them. Serious dietary and lifestyle changes were able to return the majority of them to healthy, active lifestyles. Now which would you rather do " a " accept the diagnosis and wait to die, or " b " throw yourself into the lifestyle changes and research and study and improve your health and reclaim an active healthier life than you had before heart health problems challenged your life. Choose wisely, Love, Edith rich101@... Subject: Re: diet vs. genes Good morning Joe, Rural Japanese have 1/10 the heart attack rate of Americans until they move to the US. They and their dependents then develop the same rate of heart attacks as we do. They both have the same genes. A personal observation. At one time in my life I was married to a young lady of Japanese ancestry. Her grandmother was about 4 feet tall, 90 years old and full of energy. She ate mostly rice. She was rarely sick. My wifes mother was somewhat taller, ate American food about half of the time and seemed to be sick fairly often. My wife was taller than both her mother and grandmother, ate nothing but American food and was sick a lot. Of course they all had the same genes. We lived in Hawaii, and it was not uncommon to see old fillipino men in the best of health and with quite young wives. Their sons were often sickly , suffering from diabetes, and heart attacks.. The difference was diet. The old men lived on rice and vegetables, the sons on American junk food. By the way, the Hawaiians are about as sick a group of people as you will find anywhere, cancer, heart disease, Diabetes , obesity , are common. They of course love high fat junk food, and lots of salt. Their ancestors were strong athletic people that lived healthy lives on a diet of Poi that is made from the taro plant. The drawings made by Captain Cook when he discovered Hawaii show trim, slim, healthy looking people. Except for the Royalty, they sometimes weighed three and four hundred pounds! They ate all the rich foods, the commoners ate Poi. I grant you genes do have a role in our health, but we can't do a thing about them. Diet is at least under our control. Take care, Rich << in heart trouble, and he replied that diet had nothing to do with it. It was all in the genes. Alas, he's mostly right. Some people live to 100 with atrocious diets. Others die at 60 despite rigorous diets and exercise regimens. The #1 risk factor for a lot of things is genetic. <<

Recovery Time

2007-11-26 00:56:41

Was interested to hear just how long it has taken people to competely recover from their by-pass surgery. Had mine done just over 12 months ago and am still getting knocked up etc. Thought I would be completly over it all by now. Also does anybody ever go into the Chat room? I have been in there several times and am always the only person in there. Thank you.

Fwd: this is sweet

2007-11-25 12:36:50

losing her ribbons as well as her whiskers formerly Countess Talks Too Much

NMR Lipoprofile Test

2007-11-25 03:50:14

I have had some experience with it. My cardio send fasting blood draws to Berkeley Labs in California, for an analysis of my LDL two times but has now changed his opinion and we are sending a draw to VAP Testing which is supposedly cheaper and more useful. I kinda felt I knew what we were trying to do with the Berkeley Labs tests but I am going to have to ask a whole lot of questions on this new VAP tests. I'll relay anything I learn on it. Chris << Has anyone had experience with the NMR Lipoprotein test that shows LDL particle size and concentration? Thanks! j

Digest Number 941

2007-11-25 02:00:09

Rich......my husband had a ejection factor of 22% in 1993 and today it is back up to 55%.....he was diagnosed with severe CHF and was put on a load of medicines......through the years he managed to exercise......learn to eat properly and do what the docs said......his CHF is now gone and he feels fairly good. One thing that really helped him was they put him on oxygen for about 6 months when first diagnosed......not really sure why........he really thought he would never feel any better but through the years he slowly improved.......he thinks it was mainly the exercising......... As for arteries being used for CABG......guess I'm one of the lucky ones......they took one from left arm.........took vein from right leg.........and then decided they wanted more and took a mammary artery......my leg never hurt....nor did my arm But the area where they took the mammary artery still hurts when I turn a certain way.......or just touch the area. In fact I always wanted to ask if anyone still has chest pain after many years from surgery. Mine was in 1998 and I still notice that touching my chest I feel very bruised as if my surgery was just a few months ago..........it's nothing major but guess I'm just surprised I still feel sore and bruised........... Have a great day all...... Carol in Atlanta

Depression - warning

2007-11-24 19:42:37

Since people have mentioned despression associated with CBAG I thought I'd relay this information - I was just reading that many of the heart medications have been known to cause depression including atenolol, lopressor and the statin drugs. Some people may be taking antidepressants which can be beneficial however, if anyone is taking Serzone they should call their doctor and asked to be switched to another drug. Serzone has been implicated in many deaths due to liver failure. It has already been banned in Europe but the FDA has not acted on it. Several citizen consumer groups have brought suit against the FDA for not baning Serzone. Ken

Articles and Support

2007-11-24 16:57:47

hi gail that has been my contention all along if i had know about the possible side effects i would have been prepared to fight them.i didn't mean to give the impression that i wished i hadnt had the surgery,on the contrary if i had not of had it i am sure i would not be here today.my biggest complaint is that except for a brief period shortly after i have went down hill.it was at that time they decided i needed the stents since they didnt do 4 arteries.then all the other m r i's and other tests,then it seemed like all of a sudden when the insurance started asking questions the testing stopped and i have been left to flounder.then the pacemaker, nothing has increased the quality of life,now trust me when i say i am very grateful to be alive,i just dont know what to do now,i dont know how to find another dr without having to go thru more stuff.i cant walk from 1 room to the next without huffing and puffing and that is with the oxygen,which is for asthma that i got after and chf,which i also got after. it is really been a ride . robyn Children from broken homes,should not have to live broken lives.GOD never looses track of his children.Children spell love: T-I-M-E. Yours, give it freely.

Arm artery harvesting.

2007-11-24 08:10:41

I'm just curious. How many people have had the artery from their arm used for bypass. It is a relatively new development. I had my surgery in Feb '02. I went to the hospital a few months later for pleural effusion. The nurse there said that she had read about using the radial artery but that I was the first person she had seen that had that done. Is this fairly routine now? Ken

Digest Number 940

2007-11-24 07:47:37

As someone who had CABGX4 back in 1998 I find that I'm one of those who never recovered to my pre-surgery status.......which in my mind was great! Never had angina.....never short of breath.....not one sign of any heart disease anywhere. So why did I have surgery?? Because I had a dr who did the heart cauterization after I showed some signs of pains in legs (claudication) and he insisted that if I didn't have surgery within a couple of days I would probably drop dead......yes I did indeed have blocked arteries to my heart BUT I now know after doing all my research that I probably should have said NO to surgery and tried different methods to solve the high BP etc........I wasn't on any meds previous to my heart cath so I wish I had been offered the options of trying meds and exercise/diet first. When I asked what my options were I was told I had none...........and I was scared to death........ If I knew then what I know now I would have run...not walked.....to the Cleveland Clinic for a second opinion. In my eyes they are the best in the world when it comes to heart problems and I frankly would trust anything they say. And this is a lot coming from me who has lost almost all trust in doctors........BUT I do realize there are a lot of people who are in bad shape previous to their surgeries and this by-pass stuff really helps them and I'm thrilled to know that. Each case needs to be decided on a personal level and hopefully those who have it will find greatly improved health. My dr says I'm doing good but when I comment that I can no longer do anything I could do previous to surgery it's more a "well, you're alive aren't you" type of thing with no acknowledgment that for me the surgery made me worse........in his eyes the fact I have improved blood flow to the heart is what is important and not whether I can still be as active as I used to be..........perhaps he's right........I don't know.........but I do miss my "old" self that used to dance, ride bike and walk 3-4 miles a day.........am I depressed? I was for a very long time and now I have come to be thankful for being alive and will accept my limitations as just "something to live with".......... In 1998 my Dr said he was going to use the radial artery for the bypass and I was one of his first patients he was doing this on......it had just been written up in numerous articles that this procedure seemed to work in that it allowed another "artery" to be used with the hopes it would last much longer than a "vein"............. Hope all are enjoying the beginning of spring............or should I say I hope all are getting closer to spring weather..........we will be 80 today down here in Atlanta and all the spring flowers have been blooming for a few weeks..........enjoy life and remember we are all different and how one responds to surgery/medicine/diet/exercise is just something we don't know till we try it................. Carol in Atlanta

The ongoing experiment for healing hea...

2007-11-23 20:03:47

i live about 30 minutes from the university of michigan and about 1 and 1/2 hrs from cleveland.i woiuld be willing to see another dr if i didnt wory so much about all these tests again robyn Children from broken homes,should not have to live broken lives.GOD never looses track of his children.Children spell love: T-I-M-E. Yours, give it freely.

Digest Number 937

2007-11-23 10:59:09

Hi Gail and Tina; I still am trying to keep to a 20-hour week since I get so hot at work. Getting hot is not a new thing for me, I've had the problem of overheating and sweating buckets since I was a kid. However, it is extra tiring. Thus I am trying to lose the weight and get stronger before I try to work more hours on my feet. The good news is that I am able to do more. I couldn't walk around the block without being exhausted and right before my heart attack the groceries started feeling way to heavy for me. I am doing 2.5 at 4% incline for 20 to 25 minutes at the gym. I am able to increase the speed to 2.8 for the last 8 minutes. At 2.9 I just can't quite do it without my calves screaming at me. Tina my home treadmill is different for me too. I have to work up to 2.5 on it and I can only increase the incline one press. If I try to increase it more I feel as if I am going to fly off the darn thing. I have a fan going while I am on the treadmill and I listed to music that encourages me to move. So Tina, you may want to adjust down to a comfortable level and gradually increase your speed and incline. Since I've been working with the trainer, I have also been using my treadmill at home more. losing her ribbons as well as her whiskers formerly Countess Talks Too Much

Research questions value of artery-opening operations

2007-11-23 07:30:59

My daughter read this in the Austin American Statesman newspaper on Sunday and sent it to me. Nina Research questions value of artery-opening operations New model of heart disease indicates such aggressive measures might not be as effective as old-fashioned advice By Gina Kolata THE NEW YORK TIMES Sunday, March 21, 2004 A new and emerging understanding of how heart attacks occur indicates that increasingly popular aggressive treatments may be doing little or nothing to prevent them. Artery-opening methods such as bypass surgery and stents -- the widely used wire cages that hold plaque against an artery wall -- can open obstructed blood vessels and alleviate crushing chest pain. Stents also can rescue someone in the midst of a heart attack by destroying an obstruction and holding the closed artery open. But the new model of heart disease shows that a vast majority of heart attacks do not originate with obstructions that narrow arteries. Instead, recent and continuing studies show that a more powerful way to prevent heart attacks in patients at high risk is to adhere rigorously to what can seem like boring old advice: give up smoking, for example, and take drugs to control blood pressure, lower cholesterol levels and prevent blood clotting. Researchers estimate that just one of those tactics -- lowering cholesterol to what guidelines suggest -- can reduce the risk of heart attacks by a third, but is followed by only 20 percent of heart patients. "It's amazing, and it's completely backward in terms of prioritization," said Dr. David Brown, an interventional cardiologist at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. Heart experts say they understand why the disconnect occurred: They, too, at first found it hard to believe what research was telling them. For years, they were wedded to the wrong model of heart disease. "There has been a culture in cardiology that the narrowings were the problem and that if you fix them the patient does better," said Dr. David Waters, a cardiologist at the University of California at San Francisco. The old idea was this: Coronary disease is akin to sludge building up in a pipe. Plaque accumulates slowly, over decades, and once it is there it is pretty much there for good. Every year, the narrowing grows more severe until one day no blood can get through and the patient has a heart attack. Bypass surgery or angioplasty -- opening arteries by pushing plaque back with a tiny balloon and then, often, holding it there with a stent -- can open an artery before it closes completely. But, researchers say, most heart attacks do not occur because an artery is narrowed by plaque. Instead, they say, heart attacks occur when an area of plaque bursts, a clot forms over the area and blood flow is abruptly blocked. In 75 percent to 80 percent of cases, the plaque that erupts was not obstructing an artery and would not be stented or bypassed. The dangerous plaque is soft and fragile, produces no symptoms and would not be seen as an obstruction to blood flow. That is why so many heart attacks are unexpected, heart experts say. A person will be out jogging one day, feeling fine, and struck with a heart attack the next. If a narrowed artery had been the culprit, exercise would have caused severe chest pain. Heart patients have hundreds of vulnerable areas with plaque, so preventing heart attacks means going after all their arteries, not one narrowed section, by attacking the disease itself. That is what happens when patients take drugs to aggressively lower their cholesterol levels, to control their blood pressure and to prevent blood clots. Yet, researchers say, old notions persist. "There is just this embedded belief that fixing an artery is a good thing," said Dr. Eric Topol, an interventional cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic. In particular, he said, more people are getting stents. According to an analysis by Merrill Lynch, based on sales figures, more than a million stent operations will be performed this year, nearly double the number performed five years ago. Some doctors still adhere to the old model. Others say they know it no longer holds but that they sometimes end up opening blocked arteries anyway, even when patients have no other symptoms. Dr. David Hillis, an interventional cardiologist at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, explained: "If you're an invasive cardiologist and Joe Smith, the local internist, is sending you patients, and if you tell them they don't need the procedure, pretty soon Joe Smith doesn't send patients anymore. Sometimes you can talk yourself into doing it even though in your heart of hearts you don't think it's right." Hillis said he has tried to explain the evidence to patients, to little avail. "You end up reaching a level of frustration," he said. "I think they have talked to someone along the line who convinced them that this procedure will save their life. They are told if you don't have it done you are, quote, a walking time bomb."

The ongoing experiment for healing hearts

2007-11-23 02:09:58

In a message dated 3/25/2004 8:16:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, congogal@... writes: I just thought some find the progression interesting. Al likes to say it's all a "crap shoot," :) but it's nice to feel like you have some sort of strategy! Marcella if it matters my numbers were lower when i had a massive heart attack ..sometimes i wonder if the numbers or anything is a cause or it is the heart period Rose

Those with Harvested Arm Arteries and Exercise

2007-11-22 23:45:17

Tina - as far as overheating on the treadmill goes, one thing to keep in mind is that most fitness/cardiac rehab centers are kept fairly cool, with lots of circulating air, to keep people comfortable while they're exercising. You might want to check with your doc, though, if it feels like you're overdoing it. Marcella

Support group L.A./Orange County

2007-11-22 14:34:26

Hi everyone. I'm looking for a heart support group in So. Cal. specifically in or near La Mirada (10 miles N. of Disneyland). Any suggestions? Thanks!

Newbie question

2007-11-22 04:46:46

I joined this list hoping to get some information for my father. If this isn't the right list, could someone suggest the right one? My 72-year-old father has NOT had bypass surgery, but had two angioplasties in February 2004. The first went like a dream, clearing up a 95% blocked artery and placing a stent. The second one, three weeks later, was to open an artery blocked 85%. After placing 3 stents, the doctor punctured the artery while removing the cath wire. Apparently, the seepage into the pericardium was relatively small, and we avoided opening him up to drain the blood. But a small amount still remains. While in the hospital, he also had atrial fibrillations, attributed to the pericarditis caused by the blood in the pericardium. Two weeks after that second procedure, dad is still feeling pretty bad and is tired all the time. He came to visit me, about 2.5 hours out of his home town, and had chest pains. We went to the emergency room, all test results were normal, but they admitted him anyway. He had chest pains again the day he was to be released, and they decided to do an angiogram. This new cardiologist said the stents looked good, but there was still some fluid around the heart, so that was probably what was causing the chest pains (this after telling us initially that my dad's chest pains as he described them were not consistent with the fluid around the heart or pericarditis.). SO the long and short of it, he still feels generally lousy. He's tired most of the time.Everyone I've ever known who's had an angioplasty talks about how wonderful they felt immediately after the blockage was cleared. So I would like to hear from others who have had an artery punctured during angioplasty to get a sense of how long he should feel this miserable! And does he feel lousy because of 3 angiograms/plasties in 6 weeks? Because of the puncture? Thanks! malinda

Pericarditis and/or Dressler's Syndrome

2007-11-22 02:55:48

To all of you who have experienced either of these conditions after bypass surgery could you please post your symptoms and treatment and if the problem re-occurred - how many times and how frequently? Today is exactly 7 months since my bypass surgery and I just got home from intensive care yet again. Since the surgery I have been hospitalized 6 times for this problem - 4 of them were in intensive care. All input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gail

scars

2007-11-21 20:50:52

I call them victory wounds. Yes people do stare. Especially since I had the caroid artery done also. It looks like someone slit my throat. The teens I work with are the best. They just come out and ask what happened. I think the adults get a bit scared, kinda like a reminder. Anyway Im off to the Snow in Pennsylvania to see my grandkids. I made sure I have a current list of all the meds and vit. I take...A second chance at life...we are the lucky ones..I wish you all more good days.

BypassSurgeryRecoverySupport] New to the list

2007-11-21 13:21:03

I cannot believe that he could be fired for having a heart mem

Pericarditis??

2007-11-21 03:50:00

I had my "CABG" 3/31/2003. I have complained of chest pain all along to my family doctor and my cardiologist. I was prescribed Indomethacin 75 mg on monday {3/15/04} I take 1 capsule a day for 7 days. I'll let you know how I make out.I range from 3 to 8 on the pain scale of 0 to 10. I've been tempted to go to the emergency room many times,but I don't want to get caught up in the system again. I firmly believe that once most doctors get their hands on you, your in for a hell of a ride.I was cleared of Dresslers, Fluid build-up,etc. I think my cardio guy put me on this last med just to shut me up.He was at the big cardio convention in New Orleans last week,but he don't seem any smarter to me. I really thought I'd feel better after a full year,maybe next year I'll make it to pain free territory.I think I am making some progress. If I could get past this chest pain and back pain I'd be ready for anything. I guess being 66 holds me back from healing as fast as some of you younger people. I told my doctor,I know I'll never feel like I'm 50 again,but I'd give anything to just be a pain free 66. Wow, I really sound like an old crab tonight,sorry bout that. Good health to all....Mac

Please help

2007-11-21 01:57:45

I'm not suffering, but I joined because my uncle who is more like a brother since he helped raise me is. In 97 he had a shunt put in I think that's called angioplasty. Then on New Years day of this year he had quadruple bypass, two weeks later he had to have a defibrilator put in and Sunday he had another heart attack, they put two more medicated shunts in. I don't understand how after he had that surgery he could have another heart attack. I'm very scared, my grandfather died at 51 because of heart disease which is what Greg has. But what exactly does that mean does that mean his heart is dying. I mean we know that there has been some damage to the heart muscle itself how much I'm not sure. But I need to understand this disease and what I read is rather evasive. I love him and the thought of being in world without him is just unreal. See on Christmas eve my aunt had a heart attack and went into a coma, she died on January 14th, so it's been a rather harsh reality for us. But he's having heart attacks back to back. He was a smoker so I'm sure this helped with his problem. I do not smoke don't know how I avoided the smoking gene since everyone else smokes in my family. I need to know the realities of this. What are the statistics, and how bad is he if all this has happened in such a short time. I've already been told to just be prepared. Then my sister who lives in la la land says' oh well I'm not going to worry until there's something to worry about. Um well I think there's plenty to be worried about. Please help any information, would be greatly appreciated. I tried to find a support group for families and couldn't. I just need to know. Sincerely LyricZada

WE are all Individuals

2007-11-20 20:46:31

Heh. Actually, my surgeon told me my heart is in *great* shape. It was just all the plumbing _around_ it that was bad. I haven't noticed that. Clearly, there are some people that seem to have big trouble with statins, but from the few people posting about that I doubt it's more than 1-2 percent of us. Thank goodness, because right now they look like a godsend.

Don't Give Up

2007-11-20 14:49:02

To All Interested, I am not defending CoQ10 or telling others what must be taken to help them. Along with the CoQ10 I still take 12 prescription drugs most of them four times a day and this includes a statin - Lipitor.I also had another B12 injection this past Friday and that is also probably contributing to my good feeling at the moment. My message is to keep trying to find the solution that works best for what you are going through and not to give up in the difficult times. I feel there is someone or something that can help us through the difficulties after the surgery whether they be medical, emotional, spiritual or financial. I posted the comment about how I am feeling today becasue for me it has been a very long 7 months - there were days when I couldn't make it up or down the stairs so I couldn't get anything to eat or drink if I was alone. There were also days when I couldn't make it from the bedroom to the bathroom to have a shower and there were also some good days when I could at least make dinner for the family. But I did spend a lot of time confined to bed since the surgery especially since Christmas. I always was active and social and since Christmas I been out of the house twice not including re-hab so this was a big change for me. Being able to go for a walk Sat. Sun and Today has made a big difference in my spirits. I know that all the difficulties are probably not behind me as I do have severe complications from the diabetes, constrictive pericarditis from the surgery and I still have angina. Now it is no longer the same kind of angina I had before the surgery. The kind I have now is called microvascular angina. Bur for the first time is 77 days I actually feel good and it is a very nice feeling. Gail

New to the list

2007-11-20 09:45:35

Hello, I have just joined your list and hope to learn about my husband's problems. He was first diagnosed with a heart murmur. They immediately followed that with an EKG and echocardiogram. A couple of days later they did a nuclear scan and scheduled him for cath surgery the next day with the intent on putting in a stent. However, when they put the dye in, they found all his arteries were blocked and he underwent a quadruple bypass. He's home from the hospital now, but is having a tough time adjusting to not being able to do much. He has been released from the surgeon and goes back to the cardiologist on Thursday. Then he'll begin heart rehab. What is involved in that? Will he ever be able to work again? He had a very physical job. He was fired when they found out about the heart murmur (not illegal in Texas where we live). Thanks so much for the group! Nina Campbell

pills

2007-11-20 07:23:52

Hi Gail: I do both.....I take my presc. drugs and the vitamins. Im to afraid not to take them with my history. I have a few side effects but Ill live with it. If you feel good with what your doing and your dr has been advised then perhaps your doing the right thing by you. Good Luck Stannis

Stomach "Angina"

2007-11-19 23:37:51

Had triple bypass May 2002, and for the last 3 months have had pretty bad pains in my lower stomach/gut area. Various tests, scans & procedures later my gastro doctor thinks it may be stomach problems or more worryingly angina of the stomach area. Seemingly this pain is caused by narrowing of the vessels to/from the stomach similar to heart angina. Has anyone heard of this or came across this condition. It is worrying me quite badly again. I am in daily pain and after 3 months getting pretty fed up with things again.

OFF LIPITOR

2007-11-19 14:27:08

Doc took me off Lipitor on 3/11. I feel like a new person! Tiredness and soreness are now gone. Will have bloodwork done again in 30 days. Hope I don't have to go back on the stuff.

Hershall &amp; Gardening

2007-11-19 10:29:35

You are so lucky to be in a climate where you can garden so early. Here it isn't even possible to do anything outside as far as planting or growing goes before the middle of May. I know from your postings you seem to be doing great since your surgery. In relation to gardening do you expect to be able to do everything that you used to do before the surgery. Things like digging holes for shrubs, edging the flower beds and cutting the grass. Just wondering because I want to do all that stuff because I love doing it but I still get a lot of pain in the area of the surgery when I try to sweep a floor or such. Gail

I support this group ! BYPASSSURGERY

2007-11-19 06:02:19

Great story Hershell, it gives us all something to look forward to. Let's hope we all have a great spring and summer. Where are you living? Chris << Ok Ok I already have three types of potato's, onions, and asparagus put out. I have fifty tomato plants, 25 different peppers (red Cayenne, jalapeno, Tabasco,habanero}, pumpkin, and watermelon plants started in hot boxes. Tomorrow were rebuilding the turtle pond in my wife's flower garden. Going bigger again. Has to be done now,even though the turtles want be out for at least another month. Their still snuggled up nice and warm underground somewhere. We have had the pleasure of two southern box turtles living in my wife's flower garden for the past five years. We even have to buy food for them now. Shake the pan and here they come.We even plant plants for the animals that my wife attracts to our yard. Birds!!!! I think we have twenty different types. Last year we raised a baby starling. He was so neat. He would follow my wife around pecking at her heels. He got married and moved off. But their the type of birds that always goes back to the same area it was born to raise it's chicks.Maybe we will see it again. OOOOOOOhhhhhh. Now I'm excited again all over. Spring is mine and my wife's favorite time. All the new growth. yeahhhhhh. Hershell

Comforts

2007-11-18 22:07:46

Hi Tina I have only very patchy memories of ICU, but can remember being cold, wet, sore and miserable when awake. Forever getting washed and moved about. Being moved to High Care was lovely. Soft mattress, soft pillow and each bed had a lovely snug comforter, no more bed baths either. What comforted me:- A little toy mascot (spaniel) to watch over me hand made get well card from my grandchildren lip balm soft face cloth and fragrant soap mouth wash to remove that awful taste a good rubbing ointment against bedsores A newspaper from our home town My soft woolly slippers What I never used:- Magazines and books. The personal TV above my bed boxes of chocolates make-up What I really hated Bed baths The corset I had to wear when out of bed because I had a stroke as well and couldn't 'hold' my chest together with my arms like the other patients Gerda South Africa

Pain Management

2007-11-18 20:41:36

I had my surgery on Feb 10. Everything went fine. The only problem that I had was when I was being discharged nurse who told me not to even fill the pain med script that the doc gave me. She said that it wouldn't need it. What an idiot! I do not think that I would have made it without the pain meds. I think that pain management has been really important to my recovery. I has helped me get up and move around. Getting up and moving around really helps with recovery. There is no glory in suffering!!! Dan

Donna and Her Experience

2007-11-18 10:15:48

Hi Donna, Sorry to hear you had such an ordeal while in hospital. I was in Intensive care for 6 days during the same period as you were in hospital but I was fortunate as I got extremely good care and saw my cardiologist and family doctor every day. Tomorrow is my follow up appointment for the Costrictive pericarditis - a very painful reminder of the bypass surgery done 6 months ago. Will let you know how it goes. Last week my husband felt so bad for me that he went and bought me some CoQ10 pills,very expensive here in Ontario Canada and only one brand available so no comparison shopping, so far no change in how I feel. Gail

new groups?

2007-11-18 07:05:32

In a message dated 3/12/2004 12:09:30 AM US Eastern Standard Time, donnakaydelaney@... writes: I can't find no good reason why another group should take over the original BYPASS SUPPORT group. ===== Life is Change, Growth is Optional.... Donna Roseville, Mn ann is on this list as well so im sure she will see this i joined the other one but i choose to stay here this is where i started out at God bless and keep you all Rose/ Indiana

Military and Health Care

2007-11-17 16:59:31

I won't comment on money for health care versus military as that becomes more of a political point of view and that is not what I use this site for. This support group has been very helpful when it comes to me keeping my sanity over the past 6 months. I have encountered many problems since the surgery and it is nice to know that when needed I can post a comment or question and find a helping hand at this site ready to lend a hand.This has often been what has kept me going between doctor's appointments. Gail

I could use some input and WELCOME Louisa!

2007-11-17 12:29:47

I gotta agree. I took a book with me but don't recall even looking at it post-op. I rarely even channel-surfed on the TV. As I sit here now I just can't imagine what I must have been _doing_ for four(?) days - just thinking I guess.

bills

2007-11-17 05:02:28

ok.. I live. Now, how the heck do I pay the $67,000 bill, and save my credit rating, such as it is? Feeling kinda low. If they had taken me to the VA hospital, I'd have no bill. But, in a heart attack situation, it seems the closest hospital wins! This can't be right.

New group functional?

2007-11-17 03:15:27

Hi, Is the Cardiac Bypass group really functioning? Having applied a couple or weeks ago supposedly I see my membership is still "pending". I even tried editing my pending membership to get attention, but still nothing. Does anyone know what has happened? Joe

Crestor

2007-11-16 22:46:32

In case some of you missed my post awhile back. I'll repeat myself. After six months on Lipitor, my complaining of leg cramps and feeling bad several days a week, My doctor took me off Lipitor and gave me a free months supply of the new drug Crestor. At 2 1/2 weeks I was in such bad shape I could hardly lift my arm to feed myself. Everyday was a struggle just to get out of bed. The pain in my upper body, arms, shoulders, neck and chest was so severe that I was concerned that I may have MS or MD and was considering been tested for them. Then I read someones post on how they felt after taking statin drugs and what the side effect were. I did some research on my own and relized it must be the crestor. I stopped taking it that day. Started taking coQ10, and by the end of one month I felt like a new person. I feel better now than I have in years. I also take a number of other supplements and now feel that statins were distroying my muscles and injuring my heart. Not everyone can take statin and survive. Some can, and it may prolong you life, I don't know. I just know they are not for me. I belive if I had continued I would be dead or dying by now. I know that I sure felt like I was at the time. Listen to your body, do what you have to do to have a full and happy life. If you believe statins are good for you and you feel ok with them, more power to you. Just don't live your life suffering needlessly because you haven't be informed. Do your own research and my god be with you in your desisions. I may have lengthen my life or I may have shorten it, only God knows. But what I do know is I will live a much fuller pain free life by the choice I have made. Chuck

VYTORIN for yet lower LDL

2007-11-16 10:33:16

Rose, what risk factors do you have? What is your Homocysteine level, C Reactive Protein (CRP), family history, etc. Chris << Guess those Drug dealers are trying to reduce our Chlolesterol to zero!!! Bill mine is 35 thats close lol but it was only 142 when i had a massive heart attack Rose Owner / Moderator

ABC NEWS TODAY

2007-11-16 03:16:45

Study Touts Benefits of Low Cholesterol Aggressive Lowering of Cholesterol May Help Save Lives of Heart Attack Victims, Study Shows The Associated Press NEW ORLEANS March 8 How low should cholesterol go? For victims of recent heart attacks, the answer appears to be rock bottom. A major study released Monday found that especially aggressive treatment with statin , intended to drive cholesterol far below current standards, prevents new heart problems and saves lives. These are already a cornerstone of cardiac care, routinely prescribed for heart attack victims. However, the new results suggest doctors should opt for high doses of the most powerful brands to give recently discharged heart patients the best chance of survival. "It's a lifesaving strategy and will become a huge paradigm shift in the treatment of patients with high cholesterol," predicted Dr. Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic. For several years, federal guidelines have recommended bringing down heart attack patients' levels of LDL, the bad cholesterol, below 100. To test whether this is far enough, doctors compared two strategies moderate doses of an older statin versus high doses of a more powerful newer one. The older , Pravachol, dropped patients' LDL by almost one- quarter to 95. But the newer one, Lipitor, cut it in half to just 62. The lower cholesterol made a difference. After two years of follow- up, 26 percent of those getting Pravachol had died or experienced a variety of other ill events, including new heart attacks, bypass surgery, rehospitalization for chest pain or strokes. The same happened in 22 percent on Lipitor. The benefits appeared especially important for women. Their risk of these bad outcomes fell by seven percentage points. "We have very big news in the treatment of cholesterol," said the study's director, Dr. Christopher Cannon of Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital. Heart attack "patients going home from the hospital beginning today need to be treated with more intensive cholesterol- lowering." Doctors caution that it is still too soon to say whether the same is true for heart patients who have not had recent heart attacks. Several studies are under way to see if they, too, benefit from getting their LDL far below 100. Nevertheless, Cannon and others said the LDL goal for recent heart attack patients should be lowered, and soon. Dr. Thomas Pearson of the University of Rochester, who helped draw up the federal guidelines several years ago, said the 100 target was a guess based on very early research data. "It may need some improvement," Pearson said. "Now we are getting the science, and that's really exciting." Cannon's study is the second in recent months to show the importance of no-holds-barred cholesterol-lowering. An almost identical comparison, directed by Nissen, found that those getting Lipitor also had less clogging in their heart arteries. The latest study involved 4,162 people who were randomly assigned to statin treatment within 10 days of heart attacks or severe chest pain episodes. They got either 40 milligrams a day of Pravachol or 80 milligrams of Lipitor, the highest approved doses of both when the research started. Nissen's study, released in November, was sponsored by Lipitor's maker, Pfizer, while the latest was underwritten by Bristol-Myers Squibb, which makes Pravachol. Cannon released the results at a meeting in New Orleans of the American College of Cardiology. It will be published in the April 8 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. In a journal editorial, Dr. Eric Topol of the Cleveland Clinic called the latest finding "a major surprise," in part because the superiority of the stronger statin became obvious within a month of the start of treatment. Topol said 36 million Americans should be on statins, though only a third that many actually are. Nevertheless, statins are the biggest- selling category of prescription at $12.5 billion in the United States each year. The more powerful statins carry a slightly higher risk of side effects and are more expensive. Topol noted the Pravachol dose used in the study costs about $900 a year, while Lipitor costs $1,400. Dr. Andrew Bodnar, head of medical affairs at Bristol-Myers Squibb, said until more studies are done, "doctors should reserve judgment about the general coronary disease population." He noted abnormal liver enzymes were more common in patients on Lipitor in the latest study and said Pravachol "has an unsurpassed safety record." Another study at the conference tested whether more victims of congestive heart failure should get implanted defibrillators. Earlier studies showed a benefit in the severest cases, but the new one extended that to more moderate disease, a category that includes between 1 million and 2 million Americans. After almost four years of follow-up, there was a 23 percent reduction in in those getting defibrillators. The study, conducted on 2,521 patients, was directed by Dr. Gust Bardy of the University of Washington and financed by the National Institutes of Health. EDITOR'S NOTE: Medical Editor Daniel Q. Haney is a special correspondent for The Associated Press.

Follow-up email from Glenda re: Zocor

2007-11-16 02:59:50

Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:48:58 -0600 From: "Glenda Williams" <glendaw@... To: edgundy@... Subject: Re: zocor message board Yes, I was on Zocor 40mg for 4 months... prior to taking Zocor I was healthy, strong and energetic, but after only a few weeks of taking the statin I began to have muscle weakness and memory problems, among other things. I'm convinced that Zocor was to blame for all of the health problems. But I think the reason Zocor caused the problems is it must have caused my cholesterol level to plunge way below healthy levels, plus evidently caused a CoQ10 deficiency as well. I wish I had my level checked while on the drug, as now I'm curious as to how low it actually went, but am unwilling to resume taking Zocor just to find out. I've regained quite a bit of my muscle strength since discontinuing Zocor in August 2002, and my memory has gotten much better since I began taking CoQ10. After communicating with other people who were on statins, many of whom were taking only 20mg or 10mg for cholesterol levels that were over 300, I suspect that I was on a much higher dose than I should have been for my size (I'm only 5'1" and weigh 110 pounds, and was taking 40mg of Zocor for a cholesterol level of only 244). I don't know if there are any lawsuits against Zocor. It seems that more people that took Lipitor are voicing their concerns.

Digest Number 918

2007-11-15 18:59:54

I did develop an infection that came on about 10 days after surgery. Went to the surgeon who did scraping (ouch) of the incision and said I had an infection and sent me to a plastic surgeon. I couldn't figure out why I was at a plastic surgeon but quickly found out that in their eyes the way to treat this was to do a muscle flap type of surgery where they remove the sternum and replace it with muscle..........needless to say I totally freaked out and said "no one is touching me" until I see my own family doctor. When I went to my internist I explained that due to all the problems after surgery I was fearful of more "cutting" and was there some other way to deal with this infection. He said that there was a very slight chance that it could be healed using transfusions of extremely high doses of Timentin (antibiotic). But there were no guarantees and that in the end I may have to have the surgery. They put in a central line into my chest and a visiting nurse showed my husband how to infuse the timentin every four hours day and night........this went on for 8 weeks with a visiting nurse checking the wound every day. My incision had been cleaned out and the infection was approximately two inches long and about an inch deep. We could tell it was getting better as the weeks went on by the incision was getting smaller.....blood tests were done frequently to see just what my "body" was growing in that incision.......... I realize my infection is probably not like yours but I would suggest getting all options on how this should be cleared up.......including looking at surgery if they say that is necessary. I know some who have had the surgery while others have tried other ways to clear it up. Of course one has to work with the doctors to come up with the best method for you. Good lucky and hope it clears up soon.....I'm a firm believer in getting second opinions when one is not sure just what to do. Carol in Atlanta

new member Introduction

2007-11-15 18:37:23

Hello everyone! I just joiend the ghroup and am only 3 days out of the hospital. when does the pain stop? i am already fed up with the drugs I am taking. Are there any othes who have given up on their drugs? there must be a better way! Harry

excercise

2007-11-15 05:54:10

ED I know the feeling...After the stent the dr said no strenous excerside...Walk...Like you I walk all day long...but thats not good enough...I recently was given (borrowed) a thredmill that a friend no longer uses....Ive been using it a bit over a week....Im at 2.2 miles per hour and sad to say the most I can go for is 6/10 of a mile..Im just going to try a bit more each week. I do do it every day and YUCK I dont like it a bit. It does measure the fat calories coming off. Thats about the only thing that makes it worthwhile. I try to maintain a low fat, high fiber and protein diet but darn those hamburgers last night I just had to have, guilty....but todays another day....heres to cherios and soymilk....good luck Stannis

sternal infection

2007-11-15 05:00:44

I had triple by pass in May of last year and have had sweeling in my chest with fluid collection. After many maonths of complaining to my doctor I had a cat scan which did show fuild which they tapeds twice but the fluid comes back now aftera MRI they said it is a sternal infection that I might have got when I had the open heart. Has anyone dealt with that and what was the treatment and out come.

tireness

2007-11-14 15:06:08

Hi All: Count me in on that feeling. 4xcabg in June 03with a right caroid artery too, and last month 2 stents as a graft closed and another artery did too. Anyway I do take Zoror, Plavix and other meds. I also take the various vitamins. Neither stopped the artery from closing. I asked the doctor about the tireness. He out and out told me all the meds cause that. Plus Im not "cured" only fixed. Im 57 and I am working full time. I walk a lot on the job and I recently got a threadmill..I kinda feel if I was not taking either the meds or the vitamins i could be 6ft under. I know there is a lot of talk about both. I choose bothe. There has been some excellent advice on this group, lots of which I followed and it helped. So as far as not doing all I used to, remember the turtle won the race. :):) Ladies only.....yup my left booby still hurts. Good health to all

My 12th. Month

2007-11-14 12:11:39

Hello to all of you. I have not posted for awhile,my wife and I went on a three week trip to Florida. Had a few painful days,but all in all,it was a good time.It will be a full year on the 31st. of march that I had my single by-pass ,4 heart caths,and gall bladder removal,all in a 45 day period. I'm a 66 year old male,never sick at all till last year when all this got under way. I still have chest and back pain,My breathing has improved a lot.Unless you have had this surgery,no one can tell you how long recovery will be, or how much discomfort you will go thru.We all heal at our own pace.As I look back over the past year,I realize that I should not have pushed it, as hard as I did, at times.I would feel good for a period of time, and I would do things that really hurt me days later.Feeling sorry for myself was hard to get past,but I think I've got that whipped.Attitude is really important in the recovery process,It is hard to be positive all the time,but you have to believe your going to feel better in the long run.My wife has been there for me every day,and I will never be able to thank her enough for her support.I'm looking forward to a more pain free life this next year. I want to thank all of you on this message board for your sharing and caring. We "cabg' patch kids are a select group,and we have to stick together. Good health to all....Mac

Another Surgery for me

2007-11-14 04:15:04

Donna, I shudder when I read all that could have gone wrong for me, but didn't. I hope this time your op will be a complete success. You'll be in my thoughts too. Gerda Richards Bay South Africa

Is this familiar to anyone

2007-11-14 04:11:44

I had the bypasses done in august 2003. Right now I am so very tired and my chest really hurts. It feels like it is being compressed both from the front and the back and it is hard to breathe. Anyone had similar feelings. Gail

Hello to Des

2007-11-14 02:34:00

Hi Des, Also from deep dark Africa, welcome! Gerda Richards Bay South Africa

music

2007-11-13 14:02:36

SHE BANGS!!!!!!!!!!!

Constrictive Pericarditis

2007-11-13 13:19:23

Hi Bill and others interested, I will try to explain this to the best of my ability. I had triple bypass in August 2003 and then I woke up on Sept 12, 2003 with severe breathing difficulty - couldn't make it from the bed to the bathroom and then the pain in the chest started. Went to family doctor who sent me for an x-ray which was clear so then I went to Emergency upon her advice. Blood tests and the rubbing sound in the chest indicated pericarditis and I was told to take 2 enteric coated 325mg aspirin eveery 4 hours. I was already on Celebrex - an anti-nflammatory for arthritis and sent home. 2 days later pain and breathing worse so I returned to Emerg where they did a CAT scan to diagnose the severity of the pericarditis. I was admitted to hospital for 5 days and put on prednisone- 80mg a day, indomethacin - 25mg - 3 capsules a day and 325mg of enteric coated aspirin - 1 tablet every 4 hours. After 5 days the pain was gone but the breathing has never returned to normal. Upon discharge I was kept on the indomethacin and 325mg of the aspirin daily. I am ok when I wake up but as soon as I go downstairs for breakfast and then a shower it gets worse and continues to get worse throughout the day. I still go to re-hab and do what I can. About 2 weeks ago the pain in the chest started again and it felt very much like angina so that is what I told my family doctor and I went back on Nitro spray. Last week I was using between 9 and 12 sprays a day and with very good advice I was directed to head to Emergency where I was immediately put in CCU. During these episodes the ECG is always normal. Since the cardiologist was not sure what the problem was I was put on various medications, morphine and blood thinner by injections. On Tuesday Feb 24th I was sent for an angiogram - thank goodness the bypasses are in excellant shape and there are no new blockages but while I was having the procedure done they were able to determine the inflammation of the pericardium and measure the thickness of it. This led to the diagnoses of constrictive pericarditis. I am being treated with a heavy short term dose of prednisone, the indomethacin and 4 -325mg of enteric coated aspirin a day along with Celebrex twice a day instead of once a day. I am much better than last week but if the same problem returns I will have to have surgery to create an opening in the pericardits. On a side note I will be heading back to hospital in the morning as I have develloped a large hard lump at the site where the catheter for the angiogram was inserted. I am waiting til the morning as my daughter is still upset from my recent admission so I will go when she leaves for work. So far I have no fever. I live in Ontario Canada and we have a 24 hour line that we can call before going to Emerg and I was told it could wait a few more hours. Will keep you posted. Gail

New Group

2007-11-12 21:59:06

For those of you who were wondering why Ann started a new group I think a fine example is the poll posted last night. This is to be a Support group and for the most part has worked that way until recently. I urge all of you who usually post constructive, insiteful postings to switch so once again we can have a strong, supportive group. Personally I would have gone crazy without the help of many in this group. Hope to see your postings at Cardiac Bypass Gail

picnicforus

2007-11-12 17:52:27

I just checked, our "poll creator", picnicforus, joined the group 5 days agon, on 2/21/2004. Hmmmmmm.....interesting, to say the least!

mt sinai

2007-11-12 11:54:19

theres a great doc in mt sinai who does angioplasty when bypasses close up and others say theres no hope my mom got a new lease on life

blood test

2007-11-12 07:38:54

Has anyone had a Advanced CVD Profile or a Apo E blood test. My cardio is sending it to Berkeley Heartlab in California. Acording to him this should pinpoint whats making my arteries block. Since I'm totally confused on where to post I choose to post on both sites. Thanks for any info. Stannis

Angina After Bypass- 2nd time posting questio

2007-11-11 21:20:06

Ann Ray, does the pain go away if you take nitro? Chris << Gail, can't tell you why but I have only had angina or chest pain at night or at rest. I have also used pepto bismol, maalox, alka seltzer and that does not stop the pain. It does go away after I get up and move around. If it wakes me at 1 or 2 a.m. and I get up and then go back to bed it sometimes comes back. The cardiologist thought it was stomach upset and not angina but sometimes I wonder. If you find out anything, let me know. Ann Ray

PS on moving over

2007-11-11 20:17:00

PS: I have set it up that I have to approve everyone's membership on the new group. This is just a safety feature so that those who we do not wish to join us cannot. Please be patient as I am not on my computer at all times. I'll check once in the AM and once in the PM to approve memberships!

Don't forget to move.....

2007-11-11 18:29:55

Hi all, Don't forget, this group has changed to "CardiacBypass". Please everyone (even you brand new folks) change to that group. This allows me to manage the group better (ie: boot folks who cannot behave appropriately). CardiacBypass is up and running, so please join us there! Ann, RN

problems

2007-11-11 10:09:00

Hi All: I joined the new group but Im having problems getting the emails. Im very sorry a few of us, especially due to the circumstances, cannot show the understanding and compassion and pass on personal experiences without sarcasim....But maybe there is something wrong due to the operation with these people...We do go thru rough times. Anyway hope my email issue gets resolved. Stannis

Angina After Bypass- 2nd time posting question

2007-11-11 05:08:57

HI Everyone, It has been 6 months since my bypass surgery and I was wondering if anyone in this group has experienced angina at rest since their surgery.My last meal is always at 6:00 pm and these attacks are happening between 1:00 and 5:00 in the morning.I have tried Tums just to make sure it wasn't indigestion combined with angina. I am using a nitro spray but it is taking longer each time for the episode to subside. I am booked for a stress test on March 4th. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gail

Abusive language not tolerated here

2007-11-10 19:47:08

<<Pity ther isn't a moderator with a little intelligence on this site. Warren, If you can't say something nice, please find another list to throw around your abusive language. Perhaps an anger management list would be helpful to you. I am that moderator with "little intelligence". I have 2 college degrees, carried a 4.0 throughout Nursing School while working full time, and quite honestly I think that many would have a different opinion than you of my intelligence. Please refrain from posting here unless you have constructive, helpful things to say. For over 6 years I have moderated this list quite well, and I will not tolerate the abuse you are dishing out. Please stay if you can find kind and gentle ways to communicate, as that is always welcome here. Ann RN, list creator and moderator

Sleep Disorders

2007-11-10 17:57:59

How many people who have had bypass surgery also have a sleep disorder. I didn't know that sleep apnea put such a strain on your heart. It's been 5 mo. since my bypass surgery and I'm doing well. I have my sleep problems under control and feel better than I have in years!

If you're serious about following a diet and...................

2007-11-10 14:44:38

If you are serious about not having your arteries block again you won't be eating Burger Kings, Big Macs KFC or any other fast foods. I really can't understand people going through a bypass and not getting their act into gear. The only way you get arterial plaque is from the crap you eat-the cholesterol you produce is only part of it. If it took you 40+ years to get ill perhaps you could consider spending a few years getting healthy as well as fit. No wonder Drs get sick of people who don't or won't help themselves Warren

A comment about niacin

2007-11-10 08:02:41

Actually, niacin is probably the best-documented cholesterol- lowering agent ever used. Its effects are pretty amazing: It raises HDL, lowers LDL, lowers triglycerides, lowers Lp(a), reduced heart attack risk 20-30%, and when used with other lipid-lowering agents can actually reduce existing plaque. It takes about 1.5 grams/day to do much and, at this dose, causes flushing, which is harmless but annoying to some people. Other possible side-effects I know of are stomach upset and a reversible elevation in liver enzymes. It can increase the risk of statin side-effects but only if taken with statins. Niaspan is a prescription, timed-release niacin product with a decent safety and side-effect profile. Inositol Hexaniacinate is a timed-release, no-flush, no-prescription product that's used by complementary therapists. If interested type "niacin cholesterol" or something like that into www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ or check out www.niaspan.com.

co10

2007-11-09 16:13:08

Finally got my dad to take co10 however now he is complaining that its making his foot swell up. Has anyone experience foot swelling as a result of taking co10. Richard

Survival Study

2007-11-09 09:00:21

From today's health news..... Drug Combo Cuts Death Risk for Heart Patients Four inexpensive drugs lowered the odds by 90 percent, study finds MONDAY, Feb. 16 (HealthDayNews) -- An inexpensive four-drug combination reduces by 90 percent the death risk for heart attack victims and unstable angina patients. That's what University of Michigan researchers report in the Feb. 16 online issue of Circulation. The study of 1,264 adults found patients who took the combination of aspirin, a beta blocker, an ACE inhibitor and a statin had a 90 percent lower risk of dying in the six months after they were discharged from hospital than patients who took none of the four drugs. Patients who took only two or three of the drugs also had a much lower risk of death than patients who received none of the drugs, the study says. The four classes of medications in this study are: anti-platelets, which include aspirin and other drugs that prevent blood clots from forming; statins, cholesterol-lowering drugs; ACE inhibitors, blood pressure-lowering drugs; beta blockers, adrenaline-blocking drugs that ease the burden on the heart. This is the first study to demonstrate the effect of these drugs used in combination. "We knew that each of these kinds of drugs works pretty well alone, but we never expected that together they would be this powerful at improving survival," study author and cardiologist Dr. Debabrata Mukherjee says in a prepared statement. "These results clearly show that the effect of combination therapy is synergistic, not just additive; the drugs work together to create a bigger benefit for the patient," Mukherjee says.

Chest x rays

2007-11-09 05:39:16

In Australia all bypass patients have x-ray approx 6 weeks after surgery which shows wires and if bones have knitted properly Warren

moveing chest

2007-11-09 04:36:47

had a 3way pypass setp 03 at va ann arbor. worked out ok at the time but i have a 1/4 gap in chest bone and they have not told me any thing stright up on what well happen now if it well heal or not if i can ever get on with work or just what well happen any and all input would be nice thank and good luck all us steve

Doctors &amp; crestor

2007-11-09 02:23:47

Hello Everyone... Been on the group since my triple bypass in early 2002. Part of the problem I have been having is the 40 pounds that I put on during recovery that I can not seem to shake off. I have done all the normal things, exercise, diet etc, but it seems that my biggest problem is my appetite. I am simply eating too much of the proper foods. Have tried pretty much all of the script drugs for weight control. None have worked. Can't seem to do the mind thing as I tend to counter my stress from work with a large quantity of the good stuff...lean red meat, 1% milk, high fiber breads, veggies and a baked potato now and again. Can anyone point me to an herbal appetite suppressant or something I may have missed. My internal medicine and cardio seem to frown on anything natural and have suggested that I should consider a stomach stapling, which I simply will not consider. Ideas???? Mark

re hernia

2007-11-08 14:05:32

i have had hernia over 4 yrs

Surgical Hernia after bypass

2007-11-08 06:29:43

I am posting this on behalf of my dad, who had a bypass surgery less than a year back. He has recovered quite well from the surgery, but at the incision an abdominal hernia has started to develop. He has consulted his doctor several times and was since advised to get the hernia surgically removed. He is quite afraid of going through another surgery is less than a year but has to currently wearing a belt to keep it from growing any further. I was wondering if anyone in this group has had a similar problem/experience. Also will appreciate any feedback on how benign and/or dangerous such surgical hernias can be if not removed in a timely manner. Do they tend to keep growing if not removed or can there be some medical intervention to prevent it from spreading. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Hemal

Soapbox

2007-11-08 05:40:05

A small point to ponder. Perhaps the reason your arteries clogged were from the food you eat, air you breathe, and liquids you drink. You can't stop but you can make sure you get the best quality of all three. Warren

Carbs are not bad!

2007-11-07 20:47:54

Hi Jimmy, Carbs are not bad (although the current Atkins craze makes it sound that way). It is just like anything though, there are good carbs and not so good carbs. All of "dieting" is about making choices. As Warren says - you chose to live longer and healthier, or to die sooner and with more problems - and much of that relates to what you eat. My husband and I have changed our way of eating simply because if we did not, he would be a full blown diabetic (or dead) within the year. The plan we follow teaches to chose between a carb that is better for you than another - for example: we both LOVE ice cream....helped get him where he is weight wise today. We know now that to be healthy, that is a bad choice. Now for a sweet treat we make a tasty treat with Ricotta cheese and different flavors. It is a choice. Also, some carbs are just empty calories - you get no nutrition from them, you get a jolt of energy (that is the purpose of carbs which is why you know about carb-loading), but also you get a jolt of increased blood sugar, then a jolt of insulin when your pancreas kicks in, then a subsequent drop in blood sugar. So it is better to chose a more nutritious carb - instead of something sugary, chose something with more fiber that is beneficial in other ways and doesn't put your blood sugar on a roller coaster. Just like with fats - some are good, some are not so good - the same with chosing carbs. Understanding what the different types of food actually do to your body helps in the decision process. The Food World would have us believe that we cannot be happy unless we are eating all that wonderful stuff that is out there. Reality is, we pay a big price for that. When we chose to nourish our bodies instead of feed our emotions, then we can become healthy. It is truly a choice. Ooops, sorry for stepping up on that soap box! Ann, RN

Carbs etc

2007-11-07 20:03:17

Thanks Ann and Rich for posting some sense. Potato will not harm you as long as it is cooked properly without loads of butter , cream etc. Bread is the same, preferably wholemeal, but without butter or margarine if possible. The Atkins Diet is the biggest no no. It has killed people! During World WAr 11 the incidence of heart disease, cancer etc dropped considerably because people in Europe , on both sides, ate hardly any meat and lived on potatos , cabbage and other available vegetables. USA and Australia have most obese people in the world. We have also have highest per population of KFC, MacDonalds etc. The rise in "modern" diseases have increased greatly since 1896 with the development of packaged and canned foods. All packaged foods have added chemicals to preserve, colour, make more "tasty"s than natural fresh food. Chickens, cattle and pigs are fed and or injected with antibiotics, steroids,hormones and other chemicals to make them grow faster and fatter. Don't you think that this may enter our bodies. AND if you are on medication of any sort there could be a posibility of conflict. Chickens now grow to "maturity" in 6-7 weeks. Home grown chickens were never as plump as those supermarket monsters. FOR EXAMPLE: This is for the ladies. Do you know any friends or maybe yourself who have sore breast for no reason. Tell them to stop eating chicken for a few weeks and see what happens. I'll join Ann now and get off my soapbox. Warren

Carbohydrates

2007-11-07 12:26:41

Sorry if this is dumb question. But, can someone explain to me WHY carbohydrates are a bad thing? I've always been told to load up on carbohydrates before sporting events or strenuous exercise. Jimmy

Digest Number 893 folic acid

2007-11-07 06:10:10

Interesting subject. My doctors rx'd folic acid and multi vitamin for me. Will be seeing a new cardio soon (insurance change = doctor change) and will ask him. Have not been doing well with losing weight or keeping the weight off so have joined a gym and signed up for 10 visits with a trainer. losing her ribbons as well as her whiskers formerly Countess Talks Too Much

Complementary Medicine

2007-11-06 21:22:53

For some interesting info go to Google and type in Complementary Medical Doctors and check some results. I believe there is 130,000 Drs in USA who are doing crossover treatments for may illness's and diseases. Warren

b vitamins and folic acid

2007-11-06 13:26:24

Hi Ann: I searched the internet and found an article that described a testing program that indicated folic acid was not helpful and could be harmful. Now the new information I read says that the "B" vitamins don't really help either. It is hard to know what to take Can you please post the web sites you went to for this info. Im a beliver in these vitamins and if there is new information I would like to read it. Wishing you all well Stannis

Digest Number 892

2007-11-06 12:51:17

Well, looks like I need to be upping Dick's saw palmetto dosage......he is only taking a total of 300 per day.........hmmm perhaps this why we haven't seen any improvement.....really glad this was brought up.....his doctor has never put him on anything other than to keep having him come in for the PSA/digital exam.......I know there is a drug out there call proscar(?) that some drs recommend.......but we will go the vitamin/supplements route if it does some good. So it looks like another trip back to Sam's club........... From: "captayers" <dougayers@... Subject: Waking up sore all over! Every morning I wake up and feel like i've been run over. Even wake up in the middle of the night sore all over. I think if you check back in archives (we do have them don't we?) you will find plenty of us who have had the same problem with a statin drug.....I was on lipitor and zocor and went off both of them because of the muscle pain that got continually worse. I stayed on them four years before I just decided I had to find another way to lower cholestrol.....BUT we are all different and some people have absolutely no problems with statin drugs......talk this over with your doctor and read up as much as you can on the cholestrol lowering drugs and side effects. Keep us posted on what the blood tests show. Mine showed elevated liver enzymes and toward the end of time I was taking the lipitor/zocor my dr. just wrote down on my records that I had myopathy due to statin drugs and agreed to take me off of them. Carol in Atlanta

Digest Number 891--SAW PALMETTO

2007-11-05 22:47:41

Ed--as a point of curiosity just how much of the saw palmetto have you been taking? My husband has been told that he has enlarged prostate and he goes through the biopsy routine on a regular schedule......his PSA is elevated. He has been taking saw palmetto but only two a day......was wondering if you had found that the dosage has to be pretty high in order for it to do any good? For these men who do have enlarged prostate and experience problems I don't think I have ever read anything regarding dosage. Thanks Ed...... Carol

Diet and Fat

2007-11-05 22:18:00

I was shocked when I had to have emergency bypass surgery this past December at the age of 43. I'm in cardiac rehab and finally starting to get my strength back. I'm very concerned about diet and fat. Needless to say I've read a lot about diets for people with heart disease, but there is a lot of conflicting information out there. I was at an average weight for my size and exercised regularly before the surgery. I lost 15 pounds in the hospital, and would like to gain a few pounds back, but it seems impossible on a low fat, low sodium, low cholesterol diet. What is the opinion of those who have been through this on eating some foods that have a moserate degree of fat? Currently I'm eating mainly fish and salads and turkey sandwhichs, along with fat free snacks. I have a lot of anxiety that my arteries may become clogged again within. The doctor told me I have very small veins and arteries. Any suggestions, or personal experiences? Thanks! Jimmy

angina after surgery

2007-11-05 08:50:22

Hi Gail: Last week,while in the hospital, my cardio put me on Imdur 30mg. When I came home I looked it up on the computer. Im not experiencing any of the side effects except the headaches. I find this drug with its effects totally unacceptable and intend on discussing it with him when I go back in 2 weeks. There has to be another choice. Ill let you know what he says. Stannis

Angina after Bypass

2007-11-05 07:16:49

Prior to bypass surgery I had unstable angina nad it totally disappeared after the surgery but has come back and the frequency of episodes is increasing daily. Has anybody had this problem after bypass surgery. I was told that it is a rare occurrence? Wondering if that part is true. Gail

Interested in Open Heart Surgery

2007-11-05 03:50:15

Just found this group and joined up but it seems to be more focused on bypass surgergy than Open Heart. I had open heart surgery 7 month's ago and am having a few problems with Post Traumatic Stress and the lack of motivation/energy I seem to now have - it's like starting life all over and was hoping that I would find a few others who I could exchange ideas/thoughts with. I am 33 years old living in Melbourne. If anybody else out there has had OHS and would like to correspond, I'd love to hear from you. Cheers everybody, Liberty now zipped!

Waking up sore all over!

2007-11-05 01:56:46

Every morning I wake up and feel like i've been run over. Even wake up in the middle of the night sore all over. My Cardioligist ordered some blood test to see if enzimes from the Lipitor were reacting with my muscles. Still on the Lipitor while awaiting test results. Anybody else had similar problems with Lipitor? What was done to correct the problem? Thanks

meds

2007-11-04 18:20:56

Hi Warren: Yes both my Primary and my Cario. knows what meds Im taking. Any change in meds either I call the other dr or the nurse does. I do realize Im on a lot of drugs. More the reason for the vitamins. In my humble opinion I cannot possibly get what I need from eating right with everything going on. Things even vegies are a bit too processed and I question how much good stuff is at the produce stand. I do live in Florida so I normally go to the outdoor market once a week and get fresh ve