Need Artificial Artery Info..Please?

2007-05-31 17:55:23

Hi Everyone! Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I'm a new member, trying to find some information for my mom. She just had two surgeries done last week on her carotid artery, which was 75% blocked before the first surgery, then was 80-99% blocked after that surgery, due to plaque and gunk being pushed up further into the artery. During her second surgery, six days later, she had a carotid artery replacement, or an artificial artery sewn into the artery. What we are trying to find out is ..more information on artificial arteries. All we know is that it is made of Teflon and a couple of other materials. My mom has been feeling a bit depressed knowing that she has something artificial in her. She doesn't have anyone to talk to or relate to with on this. A year ago she did have a stent and angioplasty on her heart arteries after having chest pains for years. If anyone has any advice or information, we would really appreciate it. Thanks so much in advance... Cheryl (Nadine's daughter)

Happy Thanksgiving

2007-05-31 12:14:55

to my "Heart" family! Barb

Fw: new

2007-05-31 05:22:25

Hello, Nancy, very nice to meet you! Sorry to hear that you had a bad night Yes, most of my migraines include severe pain in one eye...sometimes this can stretch into several days duration...the eye hurting constantly (in addition to everything else on that side....left side of my face, left side of upper back and shoulders, left arm,left ear, the back of the head and cervical area on the left side). And sometimes, yes, my eye will water very frequently, and of course also it's super-sensitive to light. Hope this helps....feel better! Christy

new/ eye watering

2007-05-31 00:54:28

Nancy : Yes I have and my nose on that side stuffs up too. However, when I lie down on my side with the bad side up, it (the headache and stuffiness) often moves to the other side. I just keep rolling over, with the addition of ice packs till I can get up again. I also have one eye that waters, migraine or not, in any kind of windy weather. It's quite embarrassing, since it looks like you're crying. I think the eye thing has something to do with the histamine component to migraine. Maybe someone else knows more about that. Linda

Bypass "operates" on marriages, too

2007-05-30 17:59:48

Amen Marcella! While in the hospital, I was shown all the videos of what to expect after surgery. Everything focused on physical but nothing mental. The hospitals need to prepare you emotionally for what lies ahead. The fact that you've cheated death, lifestyle changes, personality changes, fears of recurrence etc...; no one tells you about that part yet it one of the more important aspects of the whole process. Counseling needs to be as much a part of the after care as the dietician, rehab and regular cholesterol checks. Maybe we should lobby for that. My humble opinion..... Brian

untrimmed posts apology

2007-05-30 13:41:02

Friends (I hope you still are), I humbly apologize for the huge untrimmed quotes. I am just learning about computers, lists, etc. and am quite green (and red all over). My husband yelled at me and changed the settings so I will not be able to do it again. With the headaches and pain meds, I guess I am not retaining as much information as he is giving to me all at once. I have some problems with short term memory recall due to the meds. So once again, my apologies, especially to Eve(?) who cannot just zip through the repeated material and to others overseas. Yours truly, red-faced Linda

new

2007-05-30 07:23:27

Hello. I just signed on to this list this morning after spending a terribly long night of a migraine. This one was different and I was wondering if any of you all ever experience the eye on the side with the most pain, constantly watering? Thank you, Nancy J.

To Blondielou, Regarding Pain Contract

2007-05-30 04:13:16

Hi Blondielou, Thanks for sending the contract. After reading it, I have two questions that I hope you'll be able to answer: 1. I know that it is illegal for someone to drive who is impaired by alchohol or drugs, but are people on opiod maintenance therapy actually forbidden to drive even if they don't feel that they are impaired? 2. My other question is about alchohol. I don't drink much anyway, but are people on opiod maintenance therapy allowed to have even one glass of wine? Or do they have to abstain from alchohol completely? Thanks in advance. Take Care, Laura

Skip This If Not Interested In Receipes!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-05-29 17:33:35

Anyone interested in getting a cookbook through e-mail at no cost please e-mail me for more information. Suzanne Krohn skrohn@...

Fw: DHE-45 IV

2007-05-29 17:22:03

Thank you, Dick! :o)

Fw: Consent for Opioid Maintenance Therapy of Intractable Pain

2007-05-29 08:13:14

Dear Blondielou, Thanks for posting this...I had never seen it before and I have been on daily Methadone for about two months now, my neurologist decided that after 25 years of unsuccessful preventives, it was time to try this. I take about 30 mg. a day and space it throughout the day and night...it is long-acting and VERY inexpensive. I still take Zomig, but it rarely works for me. And he still has me on two preventives.....Inderal and Anafranil, but they weren't really affecting my migraines....so maybe he will stop prescribing them, I don't know. For the first few weeks, the Methadone made me very nauseous and dizzy, but now those symptoms have diminished. I am now having many pain-free days, which I NEVER had..for years and years...so I am very happy and thankful for the relief. I am going to have my neurologist look over this pain consent form. The only one that made me cringe (lol) was #14 on the list! I still drive my car, even taking Methadone. My doctor has never told me not to drive and I don't feel high or stoned, but I will ask him what he thinks. I sure hope I don't have to stop driving my car. Thanks again, Christy

goodbye for now

2007-05-29 07:19:12

I am leaving to day on medical leave...unrelated to the migraines (but I do kind of look forward to being at home in bed...at least for a few days...especially since I will have a big cast on my leg, which, unlike the migraines, is totally apparent to all who see me). I am temporarily unsubscribing to the list. I will re-subscribe when I return (in 3-6 weeks). Many migraine-free days to everyone. Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117

Whats this????

2007-05-28 16:47:31

Hi All, long time no post, busy with my kids, My husband Chris who has 4x bypass in july , had a 24 hr ecg as he is still having ectopic beats 17 per min (ventricular) Barts didnt seem worried but our cardiologist at our local hospital see him in 3 weeks time. He is still very breathless, & moans about his leg being sore he still gets breathless when he talks or climbs 13 steps he is 55, is this normal, his mood swings have calmed down a bit but he knows now if he goes back to his spiteful vindictive ways i will take the kids & go, i cant understand why he still feels so achey lethargic & breathless almost five months after surgery, Andrea

DHE-45 IV

2007-05-28 15:56:12

Christy, I had the same experience when I underwent my DHE-45 protocol in the hospital. Three or four days was about all I was migraine free then back they came. As you say, what a disappointment. Take care and good luck to you. Dick in AZ Christy wrote: Truthfully.....it may have stopped my migraines and chronic daily headaches...for about three or four days.....then all the pain came back regularly....to my disappointment!

DHE IV Treatment

2007-05-28 14:15:12

Martha, How could you stand so many DHE-45 IV treatments? I have only had one and I thought it was the most terrible experience I have ever endured. I had a terrible migraine. The neuro resident on duty was dinking around doing whatever and did not respond very quickly to my pleas to do something about my migraine - give me shot of whatever or kill me or something. Good luck to you. Dick in AZ Martha wrote: I've had the repeated DHE-45 IV treatments when I was hospitalized in the Diamond Headache Clinic section of the hosp.

Consent for Opioid Maintenance Therapy of Intractable Pain

2007-05-28 02:29:50

-- [ From: William Hurwitz, MD * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- CONSENT FOR OPIOID MAINTENANCE THERAPY OF INTRACTABLE PAIN 1. I

CABG recovery

2007-05-28 01:13:58

My mother had a CABG x5 three weeks ago. I know these things vary, but how long do most people feel really tired after this procedure. She gets short of breath and has to sit down. She used to walk several miles a week at her gym. What can we do as caregivers to be understanding? We stay with her, clean the house, and run errands of course, but how can we help with the emotional effects? She goes from fine, to mean and critical, to depressed,weepy, and scared. Thanks for any input. Frances

Are you all seeing 2 messages the same from me?

2007-05-27 20:17:56

Please let me know. So I can fix it. Thanks. ----- Melissa D. Morgan missy.morgan@...

Fw: Blondielou/Opioid Pain Contract

2007-05-27 08:27:50

Dear Blondielou, Please send me one, as well...thanks!! Christy

Hey guys just wanted to let you know I changed my e-mail

2007-05-27 03:12:49

address. I was ellison7 and now am missy.morgan. I had to unsubscribe and then sign up again. Headache free day today!!!! ----- Melissa D. Morgan missy.morgan@...

Blondielou/Opioid Pain Contract

2007-05-27 02:20:12

Blondielou, Please send me one to if your sending them out privately. Thanks Sweetie! Katrina

Welcome!

2007-05-26 11:47:27

Welcome Martha! Glad your here, you will find lots of useful information here. I have heard very good things about Dr. Robbins and I wish I lived closer to his clinic but Texas is a long way from Chicago! Hugs from Jan

Fw: IV Dihydroergotamine 3-5 Day Series

2007-05-26 08:22:32

Blondielou, I've been hospitalized and given IV DHE (along with Reglan for nausea and I think they put in a steroid of some type as well..) four separate times now over aboutr ten years....three times in a hospital after my neurologist referred me...and once about six years ago at the Diamond Headache Clinic in Chicago. Truthfully.....it may have stopped my migraines and chronic daily headaches...for about three or four days.....then all the pain came back regularly....to my disappointment! Each time I was hospitalized for about five to ten days duration. I also gave my self injections of DHE-45 when I would get a migraine and then used the DHE nasal spray...it usually didn't help. I now use Zomig tablets..it works best for me, out of all the triptans....but maybe about 25% of the time....the rest of the time, the migraine goes on. Hope this helps! Christy

something completely different

2007-05-26 04:13:34

Someone told my father about something called "aldacton spirolactone," a nutritional or herbal remedy that they swore helped with migraine. Anyone ever heard of it? Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117

caffeine

2007-05-25 16:42:06

Aside from its ability to potentiate other meds (actually, the normal reaction of the body to pain slows absorption in the stomach, so caffeine helps speed up the absorption of the meds), caffeine is a vaso-constrictor. So, to the extent it counters the dilated cranial blood vessels of a migraine, it really is an anti-migraine med. 'Course, then there are the caffeine withdrawal headaches (a.k.a. Sunday morning headache); My wife got the most authentic migraine of her life the morning after she spent an overnight with a relative who had only decaff. According to my mother, her mother treated my grandfather's migraines with very strong coffee (which is how my mother learned to make coffee that will hold up a spoon -- and I learned from her).

Blondielou

2007-05-25 12:52:00

I've had the repeated DHE-45 IV treatments when I was hospitalized in the Diamond Headache Clinic section of the hosp. I haven't been to Dr. Robbins yet but I am calling today or tomorrow for an appt. I live about 35 minutes from his Northbrook, IL, office. BTW, I'm new to the list--just today. Martha

Bypass in your 30's

2007-05-25 08:23:01

Long ago I got over the shock of taking care of patients post-bypass who were in their 30's...or so I thought. Michael, your post really struck me this morning. 34, wow. I hear a positive tone in your post, and that is so encouraging. I hope you will be able to take this life altering event and use it in some way. There are millions of 30-somethings out there who think they are coming in under the Heart Disease Radar - when in fact there are so many like you who already have serious disease. Stick with this group, they'll help you through the rough spots and will celebrate your progress with you! Ann list owner & resident RN

Thanks for listening

2007-05-25 06:48:22

Hello, Some background information, I had quintuple by-pass surgery in March of 2001 at the age of 42. My family has no history of heart diease, so this was a surprise and I didn't really know what to expect. I went to the doctor for a physical in January and three months later I had the operation, no chest pains, just clots in my arteries. I was told that there was damage to my heart due to the high blood pressure, and they don't know how much it will heal, only time will tell. I consider myself lucky, the doctors all told me that I would have had a heart attack, some time soon. I just visited the doctor and the blood pressure was perfect 120/80 and everything seems okay. I try to eat well, take the pills and appreciate life. The reason that I am writing is that after the operation, there were several people at work that had heart attacks (people started to share). I got to talk with them, they knew how I was feeling, what I was thinking and what questions I had. It was nice and it helped me alot. I started a new job, moved to another city, and now have no one to talk to that knows, like a person who has shared this experience. Some people do feel uncomfortable, maybe they don't want to deal with it in their lives, so I only talked about it when they bring it up. I have my up and down days (mainly up), the worst was just tired of feeling bad, looking at the scar everyday in the mirror and wondering if you ever feel the same again? I hope it is not a stupid question, but does the feeling (sensitivity, numbness etc.) ever go away? Again, thanks for listening, Greg..........

IV Dihydroergotamine 3-5 Day Series

2007-05-24 16:31:19

Hi... I had a 5 day IV DHE series several years ago at Johns Hopkins which did help considerably for about a month with my chronic daily headaches and then slowly my headaches resumed in their composition of pressure type pain. I have just read on Dr. Lawrence Robbins' site that he does REPEATED IV DHE SERIES...and I am going to see if I can talk my pain specialist doctor into doing a repeated series of these. Has anyone else done these and what has your experience with them been??? Anyone been to Dr. Lawrence Robbins in Chicago and what do you think of him? Blondielou

URLs vs. Attachments

2007-05-24 13:04:59

Jeff, I never try to send as an attachment...In fact, my Windows 98 allows me to send two ways, Send Page or Send URL. What happens is that the site that I am sending, sometimes will send the document as an attachment....I have no choice in the matter...I don't even know it has happened.... It is the way the site itself is set up ON THEIR END... I can Send Page but most people don't want that much text...in some cases, the site won't let me do that either so then my only other option is to Select ALL, Copy, Close, Compose Message, Paste and make a new document from that text... Sorry...but there isn't anything I can do... I guess you'll just have to delete these attachments if they make you uncomfortable... They happen to me as well...a friend of mine in particular sends me jokes all the time that come through as attachments... Sorry! Blondielou

Reposted Digests

2007-05-24 10:19:09

I agree, Tom...reposted Digests are a PAIN... To scroll through all that old text. Everyone... YOU CAN'T REPLY AND ANSWER....if you are on Digest Mode. You have to put Migraine@... in your Address book and then COMPOSE MESSAGE (make a new message) when you want to respond to someone....you can copy the text of the part that you are responding to and carry that over to the new document if you wish. But if you HIT REPLY...to a DIGEST we get the ENTIRE DIGEST...10, 20 messages--OLD MESSAGES...that we have seen before.. This is not good netiquette! Please try to remember to just compose a new message after you've put Migraine@... into your address book...just like I did here.... If I hadn't, you'd see EVERYTHING in this digest, plus all the other DIGESTS that were sent before...this would be really obnoxious!!! Thanks!!! Blondielou

URLs or attachments

2007-05-24 08:01:07

Jeff, I always try to send as a URL...sometimes, however, the way the site is set up ON THEIR END...I can't.. They have set it up so it goes to the recipent as an attachment. The only other thing I can do is send it as a PAGE (sometimes)...even then, sometimes it won't let me do that either... So when I can't do that, the only other option is to Select ALL, copy, and Compose Message, Paste and send it as a Copied document. So I NEVER TRY TO SEND IT AS AN ATTACHMENT. In fact, there isn't a

Opioid Pain Contract

2007-05-23 15:09:50

I'll send you one if you're interested in seeing what one looks like... Just let me know... Blondielou PS...not copyrighted

HMO prescription rider change

2007-05-23 12:43:42

I talked ~*~*~* Wow that is great news! Maybe the insurance cos/HMOs are finally getting their sh*t together!? ~Lyn~

tonights chat

2007-05-23 06:36:16

Well i had fun talking to the 2 people that showed up !!!!!!maybe when theres more of a interest in it we can try again :-)

is this funny OR is my sense of humor warped?

2007-05-23 03:23:53

hi all just wanted to share this experiance today i find humor in it. had a trriiip to the er last week...chest pains again ya know started nitro....no relief...started morphine ahhhhhhhhh...they poked and proded and called for the chopper and off to the heart hosp. they poked and proded and finally turned me over to G.I. well they poked and proded everyone had ran their fancy tests and i still had the pain. 6 days later i was released pain and all went to my pcp and he asked why no chest x-ray so he did one and my collar bone was cracked happened in rehab with the weights he thinks lol any way live life to it's fullest because today life is truely a gift and remember excerise excerise excerise

Caffeine Increases Effectiveness of Headache Treatments

2007-05-22 18:48:03

In a message dated 08/23/1999 2:45:32 AM Central Daylight Time, blondielou@... writes: For some...for others it makes migraines worse. I have to wonder if the so called "experts" have ever had a migraine in they're life. It is true that caffeine is a good potentiator for pain releif but I'm not sure that it's the best for those who suffer from migraine. I would think that it would be better for those who don't suffer or who are not caffeine sensitive. Hugs to all, Jan

Digests and attachments

2007-05-22 14:16:26

In a message dated 08/23/1999 2:22:53 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: I dont' understand why anyone who "manages" a list would remove attachments and html formatting before posting when maybe someone could benefit. If the list is more trouble than it's worth to you, you can always unsub! You sound very controlling to me...sorry bud, but I call em like I see em!

chat

2007-05-22 04:45:02

well i guess no one is interested in the chat ill leave the room Sorry i have things to get done im not sure if this room will stay open when i leave have fun all MonaLisa MonaLisa Men Have Named You.

The study

2007-05-21 23:35:25

I see no problem with any of you joining the UConn study that was posted to the group - this is an RN going for her PhD. The "study" is basically part of her Doctoral Thesis (interesting subject - wish she'd interview me as a nurse running a support group!) Just would hate to lose any of you from this group, so be sure to stick with us! Ann

Digest Number 295

2007-05-21 21:05:17

1 pound is 0.45 kilogram 1 kilogram is 2.2 pounds Jeff

kilos to lbs

2007-05-21 13:11:53

Did someone on this list ask about the conversion of kilograms to pounds? If so here is the conversion: 1 kilogram = 2.20462 pounds, 1 pound = .453592 kilograms Katrina

Pain Contract

2007-05-21 12:11:47

Hi All, I hope everyone is having a pain-free day. Someone mentioned that my doctor might be willing to prescribe Nubain injectible (the only thing that actually takes my migraines away) if I signed something called a "narcotic contract". I've never heard this term before, so could someone please explain what a narcotic contract is? Best of health to all of you! Take Care, Laura

Can't get into chat!

2007-05-21 03:36:08

Hi all, Was really hoping to join you in chat, however, my WinXP computer won't let me do it (just one of a million reasons I am sick of XP). I have to install another patch to make it work, but when I try to do so, it won't download the patch.....living just 23 miles from Bill Gates house/compound I feel like driving over there and knocking on his door! I'm getting my non-XP computer fixed right now, so whenever I get that back, then I'm sure I can join you. Take care, Ann

Post op 6 months

2007-05-20 21:39:36

On Wednesday of next week it will mark six months since my quadruple bypass surgery at the Cleveland Clinic. There are days when I think it has been much longer and others when i feel the pains and it seems like just a few days ago. All in all it has been a remarkable revocery. Back to work full time, reduced medications from 16 to 10 now, (financial burden lightened somewhat), completed the 12 week Cardiac Rehab classes, vacation to New Jersey (first time to see the ocean), celebrated another birthday, our 29th aniversary, the birth of our 6th grandchild, etc. I feel blessed and lucky. I have not been so successful at the weight loss, up 4 pounds from my surgery date, after I had lost 37. Always a battle for me. I am not very happy with myself right now in that regard. Hard to work the walking into my schedule with working. I seem to do good when I am at home but when working I am sitting 90% of the day. More swelling in hands, face and feet. I guess this is my next goal since everything else seems to be where it should be. I keep telling myself, "self, is you can do all of that, can't you get your weight under control". I am glad to see all the new members. This is the place to be for support and strength! Take care, until we meet again. Barb

Zomig Only?

2007-05-20 17:45:26

JinJan, If it were me with only 3-4 migraines per month, I would opt for sticking with Zomig and forget the preventatives for the reasons you listed. Good luck. Dick in AZ I take Zomig and it wipes it out. Should I have him try out more medications on me? Or just stay with the Zomig?

new guy

2007-05-20 13:21:38

hello i just joined this morning because i wanted to know what i am heading into. Triple bypass with aorta replacement is scheduled for thurday next week. Have been riding an interesting rollercoaster of emotions and reaction for the last 2 weeks. some surprising some not. The whole thing was dropped on me oct 23 wth surgery Nove 1, then postponed to 14. What a ride. I think i am ok now and ready for it but really just want it done and over so i can begin the recovery process, the next new adventure in my life. I will be talking again and thank you for being here

blondielou@cwix.com (SPAMMER!)...NOT

2007-05-20 07:43:53

Ok, Ok....oops...I screwed up. I will email blondielou personally and explain my shortsightedness, and re-add her back. JinJan: Please....do not leave us! -Achy

migraine and childbirth

2007-05-20 01:47:04

No, I can't say I have experienced it, I'm surprised to say, but my daughter did. She was given demerol and phenergan for pain and the migraine was the result. She had a reaction to the mix. The doc thought it was the phenergan but my daughter had taken this drug during her pregnancy for severe morning sickness and had not had this type of reaction. During labor, after the shot, her blood pressure shot sky high, she grabbed her head and moaned and was having hallucinations . It was really scary. ( I was her coach) Linda Sorry, I meant to write Demerol tabs, I know there isn't tabs for Nubain, the only time I've had Nubain was during labor a few months ago. I was stricken with a severe migraine during labor and and after delivery, so this helped with that to, not just the labor pains. Has any others suffered like this during the delivery of their children?

Live Chat Round 2

2007-05-19 20:06:02

In a message dated 11/1/2002 3:16:06 PM US Eastern Standard Time, colin@... writes: Where : This Group. What : "Chat" When : Saturday 2nd November 6pm UK (GMT) time 1pm Eastern time USA 10am Pacific time USA So lets all have a chat live-time Saturday, where we can discuss the latest postings or anything else you want to raise. Try to be there at the above times. See you then. Colin Scotland ill be there Ü Rose

The reality of depression post Bypass/Dadd...

2007-05-19 04:16:22

In a message dated 11/1/2002 11:05:38 AM US Eastern Standard Time, ann.mccrea@... writes: By the way and for what is it worth - the highly skilled surgeons and nurses (of which I am one) have not FIXED you. You are not fixed after bypass. You have been altered so your body can function at a normal level - but the disease which brought you to the point of needing bypass is still existent in your body. You have been temporarily re-routed, but definitely not fixed. That is the harsh reality of bypass. Most here know that reality - that theirs is now a fight to PREVENT further vessel involvement (and even reverse it) and to keep those new routes of blood flow open. Daddude, you are welcome here, all who have had bypass are welcome. But I would encourage you to seek to reach out to others in compassion toward their circumstances, instead of coming across that your experience is the end-all and only way. Ann, RN Group creator and Moderator Thank you Ann for saying that outloud..I am proud to have joined up with a great group of survivors and so knowledgeable...and daddude when ever you need us we will be here : ) God bless and keep you all Rose

35-Day Migraines

2007-05-19 02:41:02

Hello Everyone, Thank you all for the Nubain information and for welcoming me to the list. Hopefully, I'll be able to be of help and support to some of you. I'm definitely going to try feverfew (I've pretty much run the gamut of other preventatives). Can anyone recommend the appropriate dosage of feverfew? Do the three capsules per day have to be taken at intervals throughout the day or can I take all three in the morning? Also, would one or two capsules a day be enough? Thanks in advance. I'd really be curious to know if anyone else experiences migraines that last non-stop for two or three weeks. I've never even heard of or read of migraines lasting that long, so sometimes I feel like some sort of medical freak. My CAT scans and MRI's are normal and I have a strong family history of migraine, so I'm not worried that I have a brain tumor or anything. Plus, I've been getting migraines for ten years. It is scary to be caught in a prison of non-stop pain, though. I'm thankful that at least I can go a couple of months without getting one of these horrendous migraines. My neuro has no idea why my migraines last so long. They were lasting for 22 days, but I recently got one that lasted 35 days. I've got to admit, the whole ordeal absolutely terrified me! I thought that the migraine would never go away. When I wake up with a migraine, I can't think to myself, "Well, at least it will be gone by tomorrow morning or in a few days". I pray that it will only last a few days, but almost invariably I know that it is only day one of at least a three-week ordeal. Psychologically, that is a horrible, helpless feeling that tends to make the migraine pain even worse. I know that some people experience a new migraine almost every day, but does anyone else have this problem of the same migraine lasting for weeks? Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world with this problem, but there have got to be others out there. It's certainly not something that they write about in the migraine books, though. All that I've found is that the condition is called "status migainosis". Well, thanks for listening and I wish the best of health to all of you. Take Care, Laura

Fw: blondielou@cwix.com (SPAMMER!)

2007-05-18 17:04:20

Hi, I don't think that Blondilou's material was spam in any way....she seems to be a very knowledgeable person with good intentions. Maybe she got a little carried away in the quantity of the posts, but perhaps a warning would have been appropriate instead of dropping her from the list. Personally, I found some of her posts helpful, some of them I deleted immediately and some of them, I stored in a folder for reading material in the middle of the night! But I feel as Jeff does, I would like to stick around...I find it very supportive just to be able to talk to people who can identify with and understand severe head pain. Christy

The reality of depression post Bypass/Daddude

2007-05-18 16:23:50

"Whoops I think I am in the wrong group. I feel so sorry for those of you who are struggling with depression and pain. You have my deepest sympathy. " This group is about support, not "feeling sorry for others" or about sympathy. This group is, has been, and always will be a place for bypassers to come and feel safe about sharing their experiences. A post like yours casts an element of sarcasm and minimizes the reality of dealing with issues post surgery. "Yes, I too have struggled occasionally...feeling sorry for myself....chest hurting.....fed up with the side effects of all the drugs I have to take. But......I'm alive!!!! Every morning when I wake up I have that same thought. "I'm still here world, and although I do not know how I am going to feel today...I've made it through another night." I guess I'm lucky as I have a very sensible loving and practical wife....two sons and a daughter...and eight grandchildren. And still only 53 years young." If you had said JUST this, your post would have seemed supportive. This is positive and aimed at helping others in a similar situation. Ooops, but then you go on: "I feel strongly that we tend to look too hard inwards instead of outwards. Sorry America, but I blame you. Trends in the states tend to arrive at our shores eventually. The "gotta have a shrink" mentality is here. The psychiatrists, councillors, psychologists, et al are making an obscene fortune from us all. There is a great deal to be said for pulling yerself together and getting on. Hey, you had a condition.....a team of highly skilled surgeons and nurses fixed you. You owe it to them to grasp the new life you have been given with both hands. Enjoy. Good luck to you all" There is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, about post-bypass depression that has to do with clinically trained professionals trying to make a buck. Depression, whether experienced post-bypass or as a stand alone disease is real, it is clinical, and it involves physiological changes that take place within ones body first, then the emotions. Your comments here show that you have not ever experienced such a depression, and for that you should be grateful. But to minimize the experience of others, saying basically they should just "get over it" is uncompassionate and insensitive. By the way and for what is it worth - the highly skilled surgeons and nurses (of which I am one) have not FIXED you. You are not fixed after bypass. You have been altered so your body can function at a normal level - but the disease which brought you to the point of needing bypass is still existent in your body. You have been temporarily re-routed, but definitely not fixed. That is the harsh reality of bypass. Most here know that reality - that theirs is now a fight to PREVENT further vessel involvement (and even reverse it) and to keep those new routes of blood flow open. Daddude, you are welcome here, all who have had bypass are welcome. But I would encourage you to seek to reach out to others in compassion toward their circumstances, instead of coming across that your experience is the end-all and only way. Ann, RN Group creator and Moderator

PRETTY FUNNY

2007-05-18 08:36:13

My brother in law sent me this. Chris in Seattle A mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor of a Harley motorcycle when he spotted a well-known heart surgeon in his shop. The surgeon was there waiting for the service manager to come take a look at his bike. The mechanic shouted across the garage, "Hey Doc can I ask you a question?" The surgeon, a bit surprised, walked over to the mechanic working on the motorcycle. The mechanic straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked,.. "So Doc, look at this engine. I open its heart, take valves out, fix' em, put 'em back in, and when I finish, it works just like new. So how come I get such a small salary and you get the really big bucks, when you and I are doing basically the same work? The surgeon paused, smiled and leaned over, and whispered to the mechanic..... "Try doing it with the engine running!"

Meanings of support - membership

2007-05-18 06:20:48

Yup, Art, I kinda agree. I myself have a tendency to brag about my accomplishments since s.c.a. and bypass (within 7 weeks of same!) - and I will do so on slightest provocation - but you are correct - the issue is support . If the fellow who wrote in doesn't need it for himself, it is perhaps understandable that he fails to recognize that need in others. Indeed, he feels somehow 'better' than those who aren't doing as well. In order to support we don't tell people what to do , or give medical advice , necessarliy, but we DO share our experiences, and we DO ask the questions of the person that we think will help him/herself to help same. IMHO. Harold In a message dated 10/31/02 6:05:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, art.smock@... writes: Yup, you are definitely in the wrong group. We try not to judge but to support each other in our recovery. Good luck; keep pulling on those bootstraps and I'll pray for you that they don't break. Art in Texas

My membership

2007-05-17 22:31:19

Whoops I think I am in the wrong group. I feel so sorry for those of you who are struggling with depression and pain. You have my deepest sympathy. Yes, I too have struggled occasionally...feeling sorry for myself....chest hurting.....fed up with the side effects of all the drugs I have to take. But......I'm alive!!!! Every morning when I wake up I have that same thought. "I'm still here world, and although I do not know how I am going to feel today...I've made it through another night." I guess I'm lucky as I have a very sensible loving and practical wife....two sons and a daughter...and eight grandchildren. And still only 53 years young. I feel strongly that we tend to look too hard inwards instead of outwards. Sorry America, but I blame you. Trends in the states tend to arrive at our shores eventually. The "gotta have a shrink" mentality is here. The psychiatrists, councillors, psychologists, et al are making an obscene fortune from us all. There is a great deal to be said for pulling yerself together and getting on. Hey, you had a condition.....a team of highly skilled surgeons and nurses fixed you. You owe it to them to grasp the new life you have been given with both hands. Enjoy. Good luck to you all Daddude2001

Need advice please

2007-05-17 20:28:25

I go to the doctor early next month. I don't know what to do. I used to take all kinds of preventative medications. Well none of them really helped. I take Zomig and it wipes it out. Should I have him try out more medications on me? Or just stay with the Zomig? I hate trying out all these different drugs. For one I worry what they'll do to my body in the long run and their expensive. I have insurance but it's still pretty high. What should I do? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

is this normal?

2007-05-17 07:07:46

hi i am a 38 year old male living in the netherlands .i had my bypass on 06-03-2002 ,evrything went well after 4 weeks i was riding my bike again and had no probs only my breast was hurting but thats normal .after a while i notis that mental somthing was wrong i was making fights whith my partner and wanted to get rid of him ,begin sept 3 months after my operation we went to bali on a hollyday .a week before my hollyday to bali i started to get scared instaid of making fights .i had a lot of anger in my body ,i was afraid to get somthing on bali and was afraid that they could not help me .so my whole hollyday was gone because of the fear i haf i coudnt sleep .when we were back in the netherlands those problembs stayed with me so i went to my docter he sayd that this was a normal outcome and that i schoud give it time and that i needed to accept my problem .now 5 weeks later i still have tose problems and ttwo weeks ago i went to a psycologist for some therapie .now what i like to know is is this really normal and how did you people leasrn to live whit it .ps i had 4 bypass . greetings mario

is this normal

2007-05-17 06:24:13

yes my brain has to realise also that iam heald .i know everything is alright but my brain doesnt seem to realize it thats the worst .i rather do my first steps out of the bed again than whats going on in my brain now .it felt so good a few months ago for the first time in years i feld real good after going riding on my bicycle .now i dont dear to do that .2 weeks ago i had all my results from the cardiologist everyhing is allright only my bloodpresure was a litle to high but thas ok now .iam goyng to a psycologist now witch is working out all right not fast it will take some time .oh and i dont take any antydepressive the psy told me that i have to learn to cope with my fears.but iam glad to hear that iam not the only one .athough i think the hospital should have warned me about this the only thing here in the netherlands that they do is operate and send u home thas it oh and some therapy for 12 weeks but thats more walking stepping ans conditional .greetings mario and thans for your reply mario

Pain

2007-05-16 23:24:32

I had bypass surgery on the 27 of Feb 02 and I am still having horrible pain in my shoulders and very limited motion of my arms. The pain raidiates from my sternum out to my shoulders and makes it almost impossible to sleep at night. I was wondering if anyone else is or has had this problem and if so what was done for it. Thanks Donald Gilbert

Headache Diet

2007-05-16 19:39:27

Fellow Sufferers, I had a headache diet list, but will have to dig for it...hopefully I can find it. Guess what? I have been taking Depakote to try and deal with the daily headaches, I also have many migraines, but it wasn't working. It's such a pain to get to talk to the nurse at my doctor's office so I prepared a list of all my meds and how they were/were not working, plus what I was doing such as exercise, ice, heat, etc. I complemented the staff on the care they had provided thus far and also included the name of a new drug I had read about on Dr. Robbins site. The drug is Zanaflex and is used for muscle spasticity (sp?) in MS, but he is trying it for chronic headaches. The office called late last night and said to come pick up the long term prescriptions (I get from our mail pharmacy) and that she had called in the Zanaflex to the local pharmacy for me to try. I took my first dose this evening. I will report on it's effectiveness after I've taken it awhile. Wishing you less painful days and more sleep filled nights, Katrina

New to the group tonight

2007-05-16 11:56:15

Hello Everyone just a quick intro My name is Mona and in Sept 97 i had a 3 bypass at the ripe age of 29. My first chest pain was the day my dad died ( massive heart attack driveing down the road (he had a 3 bypass in 85))in march of 95.I walked out the hospital 3 days after haveing the surgery. I hadnt had a heart attack yet and so limited damage done to my heart. I had a heart cath in nov of 2000 i had a blockage again (85%) they did nothing but start me on atenolol now 2 years later i am haveing another cath in the morning these cause me so much mental pain. I right now am haveing a panic attack thinking of this. After the surgery i lost my mind . cheated on hubby kicked him out ran around started smokeing and drinking hard again. No one would help me I was 29 years old and had no one to turn too, to talk with nothing. my mother had passed 6 months before i had the surgery. no doctor told me i would not be myself . and even when they told me i had to have the surgery i told them no let me go home . I thought of this as life support and i wanted it unplugged but , NO they got a court order and MADE me do this so, now everyday for the rest of my life i have this to think about when am i going to have to be cut again. I don't want to be a downer here but , as i read the messages some do have the thoughts i had when i first came home from hospital but as i get older the more i worry about it . some days i feel good others are bad. thanks for haveing this group maybe i will find some ease in this life i have in this group. well i need to go pack some things for tomorrow I just wanted to say Hi and thanks for the group :-) \ PS... i hope my words sound alright I know its more like ranting then a hello Thanks

cabg

2007-05-16 03:39:41

Hello Group. I had double bypass in April 2000 and have only just found you! Ah well, I am a bloke after all and everybody knows we are a bit on the slow side. Fascinated by the messages posted in the club and thought I might give you a brief resume of my experiences post cabg. It may be of some use to those of you who have had surgery recently. Firstly and most importantly.....do not expect to feel on top of the world in as short a time as legend would have it. We've all heard the stories...."My uncle had a triple on Monday, came home friday and was digging the garden the following week"........absolute nonsense. Although we are all different I did not feel my old self for at least a year. Even now I get the occasional twinge in the chest especially if the weather is cold. Sneezing can still wrench too. Although I am back to full-time work (I only took eight weeks off, I work in an office) there are still days when I get up and feel unable and unwilling to do anything at all. I call them "clapped-out days"...my colleagues call them my "duvet days). I could go on for ages but better finish now so I dont bore you all (if I havent already). If you've just been done and suffering pain and depression.....hang in there....it will get better. daddude2001

Howdy

2007-05-15 23:47:16

I hope all of you are well. I have been busy but have been following the posts. Yes I think the chat group and time are acceptable. Hi Shannon and welcome to the group. I am, (Nov, 1) at the four-month anniversary of my Quad. Shannon (and others) hang in there, it gets better.. Just seems like forever. I am amazed at how the human body recovers. It depends on the individual, the degree of the disease, and the attitude which a person approaches their recovery. As a 52y.o., Respiratory Therapist I have seen the disparity of healing between patients. Some people also have a low threshold of pain and that adds to the mix. I suggest that everyone realize that they are unique. Yes, there are certain medical constants but everyone heals differently. Talk to the doctors, therapists, NURSES, and most of all research on your own and discuss what you find with your healthcare people (just try to find reputable sources.) Changing the subject The problem I have is not medical. It is with the Health plans that I have with my IBM retirement. I know that I am fortunate to have Insurance, but because of how they administer it (seems the best choice each year is the most expensive next year. Just my opinion or luck.) This year my current plan increases 175%. I must choose to pay this or can select a different one. The plans have the same basic coverage with some twists and turns, but my physicians are not in these new plans. I lucked out this year and only bump my general care physician and keep my cardiologist, labs and hospitals. I wonder how many of you members have this problem. I know you folks in the UK, like Colin, and Canada have some of these decisions taken out of your hands but don't you feel that continuity of Health care providers is important. I have just gotten familiar with my Doc and he now understands my case and therapy. I don't think that you should be forced to jump ship because of administration costs each year. Let me know your thoughts folks.. Walt

funny story

2007-05-15 13:59:54

Hi All - While we're talking about food triggers, I have a related story. Last fall my headaches were getting worse, so I tried a typical migraine food trigger elimination diet. Got off coffee, tea, cola, and most of the foods we've been talking about basically. Substituted fruit juices for colas. It was a beautiful autumn here and I discovered a nearby apple cider mill where you could watch the whole process of making the cider. I like cider so I started to drink that in place of colas. My headaches went out of control!! I told myself that this elimination diet just ain't working and quit it after 2 months. Of course, as it turns out, I later learned from someone on the Internet...be careful of apple cider - it has tannins and other triggers - it's a partially fermented product. Of course!! Did I feel dumb! Here I was being so careful on my diet and I was drinking the one WRONG thing! I'd never seen cider on any trigger list, but it makes sense. As soon as I stopped drinking it, I improved. P.S. Does anyone know how to get my name in the posting to be in small case letters? I don't know why it turns up in all caps. Makes it look like I'm screaming for attention, but really, I'm not! Ha! I'd like to change it if I can find out how. Thanks!

magnesium/calcium

2007-05-15 07:45:35

Linda~ I found this info saved in my favorites. I did take the chelated cal/mag, Vit B complex & Vit E along with Feverfew for quite awhile. As usual I didn't notice any change in my Migraines. I think the Dr had me gradually get to the mega doses of Magnesium but as I said I couldn't continue, I spent too much time in the bathroom! ~Lyn~ NUTRIENTS: Calcium, 1,500 mg. per day. Magnesium, 1,000 mg. per day. Coenzyme Q10, 30 mg. twice daily, improves oxygenation. Niacin, 300 mg. per day, doctors supervision is advised. Potassium, 99 mg. per day, for the proper sodium/potassium balance, to reduce water retention. Pyridoxine (vitamin B6), 50 mg. 3 times a day, plus B complex, 50 mg. 3 times a day. Vitamin C plus bioflavonoids, 2,000-8,000 mg in divided doses per day. Vitamin E, 400 IU daily, improves circulation.

tyramine

2007-05-15 03:24:54

A West German publication reported that some foods contain the amino acid tyramine, a substance that causes the blood pressure to rise, resulting in a dull headache. These foods are referred to as containing tyramine: bananas, caffeine, alcohol, cheese and sour cream, chicken, chocolate, citrus fruits, cold cuts, smoked fish, herring, onions, peanut butter, pork, vinegar, wine, and fresh-baked yeast products Well add that to all the rest of the off limit foods & additives now we have an amino acid!

Fallen from the MIgraine Wagon!

2007-05-14 21:47:29

Very sorry about not checking in of late. I was hunting for some research material in our computer room, and came across an old stash of chocolate. I'm afraid I went for it! I've had a doozy of a migraine since. I know I was naughty, but I just couldn't help myself. The chocolate wrapper just cried to be open, and after the first bite, I was hooked. Is there any other way to get over chocolate? I'm thinking of going to Chocoholics Anonymous, if I can find it in the YP. Forgive me (I failed) Robert

Nubain

2007-05-14 15:01:16

Hello Everybody, I just wanted to introduce myself and see if anyone has any suggestions about how to handle my severe, long-lasting migraines. My name is Laura, I'm 27 years old, and I've been getting severe migraines for almost ten years. The problem with my migraines (besides the severity) is the duration rather than the frequency. The symptoms are severe throbbing pain across the forehead and at the back of the neck, nausea, vomiting, and extreme sensitivity to sound and light. I might get "only" one migraine in a two month period, but if that migraine lasts for a month, that means that I am spending 50% of my life in excruciating pain. Sometimes I can go a few months without getting one, but then I'll be hit with the migraine from hell, lasting for 18, 25, even 35 days! My migraines just will not end. Does anyone else have this problem of prolonged migraines? Of course, I have run the gamut of preventatives. Also, the abortives such as DHE, Imitrex, etc. do absolutely nothing to alleviate the migraine. Does anyone else here have the same situation of not responding to either the triptan or the ergot drugs? It is so frustrating, especially since my doctor seems to think that these drugs are supposed to work. My doctor is pretty good, though, and there is no doubt that these are migraines. I have a very strong family history of migraine and have had a normal CAT scan and MRI. My last migraine was my longest ever, lasting for 35 days! I almost feel like it never would have ended if I hadn't finally gone to my doctor for an injection of Nubain/Phenergen, which mercifully ended the migraine. I would have gone sooner had I known that there was a drug that would end a migraine. I thought that the doctor would just give me a painkiller that would last for a few hours, and then the migraine would come back. Instead, the Nubain worked like magic. I also live alone and have no one to drive me the 40 miles to the doctor's office. I finally found someone to drive me that day, but it will be very difficult for me to find someone to drive me in the future. (My friend had to take the entire afternoon off from work to drive me, and I hate not being self-sufficient and having to ask for a favor like that. I'm not sure she'll be able to get time off from work again, since her boss was not happy). Anyway, I just wanted to ask if a doctor would prescribe Nubain for me to inject at home? Or is Nubain one of those drugs that they worry the patient will get "addicted" to? I know how to do intramuscular injections from when I took DHE injectible. I would probably only need to take it a few times a year. It would save me so much suffering. I wonder if the drug would become less effective or stop working over time? Does anyone else have experience with this drug and do doctors prescribe it for home use? Well, thanks for listening. I'm really glad I found this list. I wish you all the best of health, because I know firsthand how much all of us suffer. Laura

Just Curious

2007-05-14 07:58:21

I was wondering if there ever was a time during the week that members of the group meet in the chat room to get acquainted and share. Does anyone think it might be worthy idea??? Again --- just curious. Thanks, Shannon

bologna & swiss cheese & cheddar...OH MY!

2007-05-14 05:58:05

ack! seems my list of "acceptable foods" is shrinking everyday. I find ALL forms of cold-cuts, even turkey breast, trigger a headache. It's really difficult to form a 3-meal-a-day menu at this point. Add tomatoes to the list...and any kind of prepared sauces, such as Barbeque or Spaghetti sauce. Does anyone have a really good "Bad-Food List" they can post? One that includes the obvious like aged cheese and red wine (although I find all wine is bad, as is alcohol in general). Keep the feedback coming! -Achy

MSG

2007-05-13 22:13:38

Just a tip for Stove Top addicts: the Turkey flavor has no MSG in it (my wife & I researched this carefully, as our kids wouldn't give the stuff[ing] up). Another curiosity is that the Chicken Noodle-O's Cup'a Soup has no MSG but the family size packages of the same stuff does. Go figure...

bologna

2007-05-13 10:59:46

Melissa -- YES. Lunchmeats (like bologna) are preserved with nitrates and/or nitrites, which cause blood vessels to dilate (i.e., cause a migraine). They are related to the nitroglycerine that's given to angina victims to dilate their cardiac blood vessels (and which causes raging migraines). The nitrates/nitrites also accumulate, so an occasional bologna sandwich is probably okay as a treat, but not routinely. I had to make my favorite b-l-t's a treat instead of a staple for just that reason. (Bacon, like an awful lot of other meat products, also has that stuff soaked into it.) When my wife switched my lunches away from standard preserved lunchmeats my headaches definitely improved.

Just to introduce myself

2007-05-13 07:22:27

Hi folks, I guess I am one of the fortunate people that can say I survived surgery to be able to be here. What was supposed to have been a single angioplasty on 10/02 turned out to be a quadruple bi-pass performed at the Deaconess, Beth Israel Hospital in Boston. I had never seen the inside of an operating room before and had no idea as to what to expect. Today I am recovering, -- my chest is so sensitive to the touch -- almost the same sensation I feel when touching a sun-burn. It has just been the past two evenings that I seemed able to get comfortable in bed and able to move slightly without being in some form of pain and major discomfort ---- I guess this is all normal, and I am not telling anyone anything that they themselves have not experienced. What ended up being a total surprise and caused me to wish for a quick and merciful end -- was the other day when my first (and totally unexpected sneeze) came upon me. Damn --- it felt almost as though I had opened myself up with a rusty blade and was emptying my insides all over the town of Norfolk, Mass. I have never experienced such pain in all my life. I will look forward to reading any advice and answers to any questions that are posted. I am here to learn and avoid any further pit-falls. God bless you all, Shannon

blondielou@cwix.com (SPAMMER!)

2007-05-13 07:18:02

Hiya Fellow Migraineurs: I deleted blondielou@... from our group; she/he/it is nothing but a spammer. Sorry about that, but sadly I may have to change the way people join this list if we get more spammers. Please: keep your eyes open and email me directly if you see a problem: MyAchyHead@... Make the "SUBJECT" this: ****SPAMMER ALERT**** so this way I spot it right away (I get tons of mail!) Thanks for all your help! -Achy

another blonde joke...

2007-05-12 23:19:52

A blonde calls her boyfriend on the phone with a problem. "What's the matter?', he asks. "Well I've bought this jigsaw puzzle but it's too hard. None of the pieces fit, & I can't find any edges." she says. "What's the picture of?", he asks. "It's of a big rooster" she answers. "Alright," he says, "I'll come over & have a look." When he arrives she thanks him & leads him over to the kitchen table where she has it laid out. He takes one look at what she has been struggling with & says, "For Christ's Sake, put the cornflakes back in the box!"

[What amounts of folic acid are folks ...

2007-05-12 19:26:03

10.8 mcol/L Dave C.

[What amounts of folic acid are folks taking?

2007-05-12 03:31:02

Chris, thanks for the conversion factor. Whoever said 1 miiligram is by perscription only, two and a half tablets of 400 micro grams = 1 milligram - no perscription needed for 400 mcg. Harold

Prosecutors: Doctor Caused Five Deaths, August 16, 1999

2007-05-11 22:08:52

Prosecutors: Doctor Caused Five Deaths With Pain-Killer Prescriptions 2.49 p.m. ET (1849 GMT) August 16, 1999 By Steve Geissinger REDDING, Calif. Dr. Frank Fisher's supporters consider him a pioneer in the field of pain management. Rich Pedroncelli/AP Dr. Frank Fisher smiles at co-defendant Stephen Miller, a pharmacist, during a recess in court The Harvard-educated physician says he prescribed heavy doses of painkillers to ease the suffering of his chronically ill patients. But prosecutors say Fisher did nothing more than run a drug mill, overprescribing medications that caused the deaths of five people. "His practice was a sham," says Deputy Attorney General Anthony Lewis. "He wasn't providing medical care. He was providing drugs to the community, to people who wanted to abuse narcotics." Fisher and the co-owners of a pharmacy that filled the prescriptions, Stephen and Madeline Miller, were charged with five counts of murder charges that Fisher says reflect a terrible misunderstanding of his work. "I feel like I'm being punished for behaving with good conscience and doing the right thing," he told The Sacramento Bee. "I don't think the attorney general's office understands the issue of chronic pain or how you treat it." A Shasta County judge ruled last month that there wasn't enough evidence to try the three for murder and reduced charges against Fisher, 45, to involuntary manslaughter in three of the deaths. Stephen Miller, 49, now faces two counts of involuntary manslaughter. Murder charges were dismissed against his wife, Madeline, 45. The three still face 19 counts of fraud for billing Medi-Cal $2 million last year. They have pleaded innocent. Fisher billed Medi-Cal, a government-funded health-care program, for treating patients with no legitimate medical need, then steered them to the pharmacy with costly prescriptions for hundreds of morphine-like pills, prosecutors say. Lewis says prosecutors "are not attacking the pain-management industry." The doctor had seen at least once up to 3,000 patients from Redding and surrounding communities in northern California, and probably no more than about 200 were being treated for chronic pain, Lewis says. But Fisher's supporters say the case is misguided. They have started a newsletter on his behalf and printed T-shirts to show their support. "I think these people who are prosecuting (Fisher) have never even had a headache," says former patient Barbara Hackett, who has lupus, an inflammatory disease that can affect the skin, joints, kidneys and nervous system. "If they had a family member with the kind of pain that every one of us puts up with every day, then this wouldn't be happening." There is no consensus in the medical community on the best way to relieve chronic pain. While debate continues, doctors risk discipline from medical licensing boards for prescribing powerful narcotics. In California, the Intractable Pain Act of 1990 lets physicians prescribe any level of medication they think is needed so long as an increase in dosages is gradual, among other precautions. Dr. Mitchell Max, director of the pain research clinic at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., is testing potential alternatives to the powerful opiates like oxycodone that Fisher prescribed. "But nothing we've come up with is a good as opiates," Max says. "Every physician has patients who do well on them. But they also have patients who take them like candy." Among Fisher's patients who died was 19-year-old Bruce Johannsen Jr. He choked on vomit "due to oxycodone intoxication" on July 1, 1998, investigators say. Johannsen's father, Bruce Sr., blames Fisher. "He flooded this town with pills and my son got some of them." If convicted, Fisher faces up to 16 years in prison; Stephen Miller, 14 years; and Madeline Miller, eight. They could be fined $4 million each. The three are barred from their jobs pending the case's outcome. No trial date has been set. Fisher's supporters include Robert Stevens, whose wife, Tamara, 38, was among those Fisher was originally accused of murdering. After other doctors gave her 18 months to live, she survived almost four years under Fisher's care, he said. "They're prosecuting him for something he didn't do," Stevens said. "He provided a service to this community." comments@... © 1999, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. All rights reserved. Fox News is a registered trademark of 20th Century Fox Film Corp. © 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved.

a Joke for my book.

2007-05-11 20:34:32

Hey all, I am putting together a joke book. I would like everybody to send me their fave joke. Lets keep it a little clean (PG-13) if you iknow what i mean! Thanks! Vicki You are just jealous because the voices are talking to me!

Hallelujah!

2007-05-11 17:11:41

Congrats Susan! Are you still going pain free? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

topiramate

2007-05-11 10:55:28

Hi Suzi! I just got back from my monthly visit to the neuro on Monday, and they are tapering me off the "placebo" and titrating me onto the free open-label topiramate which I will have for the next year. The stats are that I have had my migraines improve by 75% since going onto the topomax, and I have lost 28 pounds total too. It has assisted the effect of my prozac, and I feel better in general. I just have to keep an eye on myself to see that I have enough calories during each day. Cool beans! sue h At 10:51 AM 8/18/1999 -0700 suzi@..., you sent me this swell little note...

What amounts of folic acid are folks taking?

2007-05-11 06:10:50

When I read about the treatment for excessive homocysteine years ago , namely folic acid (Vitamin B-3), I decided that a little wouldn't be bad to take on a daily basis, 'just in case' , as excessive H-cysteine is an artery-clogging condition. Now we see t.v. programs suggesting that it might be heart-healthy to supplement with folic acid. Currently, I take 400 MICRO grams daily. I see others are taking 'milligrams'? Is that bigger than a microgram? (I guess I could look it up on the internet, right?) . Can those taking folic acid state their dosage accurately? Thanks Harold

calcium and magnesium

2007-05-10 16:55:25

woops! I meant 2x as much magnesium as calcium Linda

Cardiologist Follow-up

2007-05-10 16:33:33

Just thought I would post my follow-up results from my cardiologist visit last Thursday. This was only my second visit with him since my surgery in November last year. However; since I had been rehospitalized in September, my PCP thought it would be good to follow-up with him. I took some time to express the mental aspects that I was experienceing. He told me that it is completely normal for a young person to have all sorts of mixed-up emotions following surgery and they certainly can last a while. The whole "old before your time" theory comes into play and I just need to keep an eye on it. He did take me off the Cardizem. He says that there has never been any proof that Calcium Channel blockers do ANYTHING at all and even less to prove that they prevent spasming and collapse of the grafts. "Stop taking it." Instead he wants me on 1mg of Folic Acid daily. (He previously advised me that I DIDN'T need to take it.) Regarding the "lump" at the base of my sternum, he says we'll keep an eye on that as well as it may need to be surgically removed. Not a big deal, but will require a general anesthetic and a "clipping". In all, he's quite pleased with my progress and says I should be seen in 6 months barring anything unforeseen. I did tell him of my discouragement with being rehospitalized two times since surgery and he said that since I've had problems before, they need to investigate everything. I guess it's a good sign that the pain I had that led to me going in the hospital the last time has not returned and I have not had to use the NitroQuick at all (though I carry it as I was instructed). I hope this lengthy update finds you all doing well. Brian

Question...

2007-05-10 11:41:50

Could all beef bologna be a headache trigger? I love it and eat it frequently for lunch. And I seem to get a headache about an hour later. Is this a coincidence? Do food triggers hit you that fast? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

irregular heartbeats - pounding

2007-05-10 04:53:43

Layman's guess: Now (after valve surgery, or bypass for that matter) the blood that is being pumped is being pumped more effectively, more powerfully. The heart is working more the way it should - so the beating becomes palpable. Just a guess. Harold

magnesium & vitB2

2007-05-09 19:40:40

Here is some info I had, you may want to check out this site... www.migraines.org/treatment/treatalt.htm It's MAGNUM & has some Alternate Measures for treatment & management of Migraines. ~Lyn~ Vitamin B2 supplements is another preventative non-drug treatment you may want to consider taking. A study in Belgium found that people who took 400 milligrams of vitamin B2 daily had about one-third fewer migraines than did those taking a placebo. The study, published in the February issue of the journal Neurology, included 55 patients in Belgium and Luxembourg who normally had two to eight migraine attacks each month. Magnesium as an alternative preventive treatment has mixed support in the medical community. The most current position on this alternative over the counter preventive approach is best summarized by the Migraine and headache expert Ninan T. Mathew, M.D., which he noted the following at the 1998 AASH (American Association for the Study of Headache) Scottsdale Symposium-"Even though magnesium deficiency in the brain is implicated in the pathophysiology of Migraine, there is still no proof that magnesium replacement is of any benefit in Migraine prophylaxis. The only double-blind placebo controlled study in patients with Migraine without aura (69 patients) reported negative results, even though a previous small study in menstrual Migraine reported magnesium to be effective. Mauskop et al emphasized the importance of serum ionized magnesium measurements in determining the magnesium state in Migraine patients and have used intravenous magnesium in patients found to have low ionized magnesium level. These observations have not been confirmed yet." Perhaps oral magnesium supplementation should be a part of treatment for migraine as a preventive. Taking a 100% of the USDA recommended DV (daily value) would be safe and prudent. That would be 400mg of magnesium (from magnesium oxide or magnesium sulphate) a day. A Canadian approach suggested that physicians advise migraine patients to consume at least 6 mg magnesium per day for each kilogram of body weight. An even higher intake of 10 mg/day per Kg of body weight may be desirable provided that it does not trigger a laxative effect. Breaking the dosage into three or four parts taken at different times of day helps prevent laxative effect. Magnesium hydroxide is NOT recommended because of poor bioavailability and because they know of no instance of it having any beneficial use other than as a laxative. Other Magnesium compounds appear to be better, including Magnesium oxide, Magnesium sulphate, and Magnesium citrate. Natural magnesium in water (magnesium carbonate dissolved in CO2-rich water) is 30% more bio-available than Magnesium in food or pill, and offers much greater cardio-protection. If pills are used, they suggest chelated, Krebs cycle, with several Magnesium compounds; this gives greater bio- availability, and doesn't upset the stomach.

irregular heartbeats II

2007-05-09 17:37:35

Buddy, I read the posts on this subject in reverse order. What do you mean by irregular? Harold

irregular heartbeats

2007-05-09 05:50:39

Hi group: I'm new to the group, and hope someone can give me some advice. My local PCP and cardiologist don't seem concerned about this, but I am. Maybe someone has similar symptoms?? About two and one half years ago I had a six vessel bypass--recovery went well except for this weird fact: When I lie on one side at night to try to sleep, I experience very irregular, and often quite strong heart beats. It stops when I lie on my back. As I say, the medical people seem to think its no big deal.....but I though I'd check with those of you who have been through this. Any advice? Thanks in advance Buddy

Year 2000 Computer Bug May Affect Health C

2007-05-09 01:33:19

I will be stocking up on my meds!!! Just to be on the safe side but I doubt it will really be that big of a problem. I think alot of the Y2K bug thing is being overexagerated but one can never be too safe! Hugs to all, Jan

LINDA

2007-05-08 21:07:16

hehehehe...yes the perfume samples do drive me crazy---how do I deal with it??? I don't get the paper anymore....lol...the ladies in department stores run like hell when I head towards them also...I say I am very allergic lady and unless you want me to die right here in front of you you will get lost....lol....works everytime....lol hope all are having a pain free day. warm hugs roxie

Care Chapter - Physical Therapy Care and Services

2007-05-08 12:26:57

1999-2000 Comprehensive Accreditation Manual for Behavioral Health Care (CAMBHC) Care chapter--Physical Therapy Care and Services Note: New language is underlined. Standard TX.5 Functional physical rehabilitation status is assessed to determine the current level of functioning, self-care, self-responsibility, independence, and quality of life. Intent of TX.5 The individual's physical status and functional abilities are evaluated before instruction and treatments are initiated. Example of Implementation for TX.5 The physical therapist and other qualified professionals develop criteria that will trigger the need for a comprehensive functional assessment. When the criteria are met, the physical therapist documents an initial assessment and therapy evaluation in the progress notes. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5 Clinical records Organization policies and procedures Scoring for TX.5 Are physical therapy evaluations and assessments performed before physical therapy services are initiated? Score 1 Yes Score 2 With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 Not consistently Score 4 Rarely Score 5 No Standard TX.5.1 Qualified rehabilitation professionals determine the scope of the functional rehabilitation assessment; provide rehabilitation services consistent with professional licensure laws, regulations, registration, and certification; and implement the physical rehabilitation plan with the individual and his or her family, social network, or support system. Intent of TX.5.1 Rehabilitation services are provided by competent professionals who are qualified by education, professional licensure, regulation, registration, certification, training, and experience. Qualified professionals develop and implement the rehabilitation plan and involve the individuals served, families, and their support systems. Individuals served are encouraged to make choices about their participation in physical rehabilitation and develop a sense of achievement in progress. Individuals served and members of their support systems participate in implementing the physical rehabilitation plan, including identifying interventions to reach reasonable goals; coordinating and collaborating on rehabilitation interventions; and documenting the individual's treatment choices, response to interventions, progress toward goals and objectives, and changes in condition. Patients and family receive information about potential benefits and risks of rehabilitation services in order to make informed decisions. Their expectations are considered and documented in the rehabilitation plan. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.1 Interviews with physical rehabilitation services staff Policies and procedures addressing rehabilitation care planning Clinical records Scoring for TX.5.1 a. Do qualified physical rehabilitation professionals provide rehabilitation services? b. Does the rehabilitation plan include the elements as described in the intent? Score 1 a. Yes b. Yes Score 2 a. With a few, minor exceptions b. With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 a. Not consistently b. Not consistently Score 4 a. Rarely b. Rarely Score 5 a. No b. No Standard TX.5.1.1 Discharge planning from rehabilitation services is integrated into the functional rehabilitation assessment. Intent of TX.5.1.1 Discharge planning is initiated early in treatment based on continuing assessments and stated expectations for achieving treatment goals and objectives. Criteria for discharge or termination of services may vary based on age, disability, treatment setting, and the organization's bylaws, rules and regulations, and written plan for professional services. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.1.1 Interviews with physical rehabilitation services staff Policies and procedures addressing rehabilitation care planning Clinical records Scoring for TX.5.1.1 Is the individual's discharge from physical rehabilitation services based on reassessment and written discharge criteria? Score 1 Yes Score 2 With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 Not consistently Score 4 Rarely Score 5 No Standard TX.5.2 Reassessment of the individual receiving physical rehabilitation services is an ongoing process. Intent of TX.5.2 Staff periodically assess physical rehabilitation achievement and potential for each individual. Physical therapy staff monitor the extent to which services have met the therapeutic goals established through assessments, caused improvement of the identified physical dysfunction, or reduced pain associated with movement. Periodic reassessments are performed, as needed, to review treatment goals. (See also PE.3PE.3.3.) Example of Implementation for TX.5.2 As appropriate, the clinical record includes documentation of discussions with the individual and family regarding the physical therapy services that have met the therapeutic goals. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.2 Clinical records Documented performance-improvement activities Scoring for TX.5.2 Are the outcomes of physical therapy services monitored and assessed for each individual, as described in the standard and intent? Score 1 Yes Score 2 With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 Not consistently Score 4 Rarely Score 5 No Standard TX.5.3 An interdisciplinary physical rehabilitation plan and goals, developed by qualified professionals, in conjunction with the individual and /or his or her family, social network, or support system, and based on a functional assessment of the individual's needs, guide the provision of physical rehabilitation services, appropriate to the individual's environment. Intent of TX.5.3 Whenever physical therapy is provided, treatment goals and plans are developed that are consistent with the diagnosis, the prognosis, and the aim of preventing or reducing disability or pain and restoring lost function. A collaborative, interdisciplinary approach helps coordinate care and planning to meet individual care goals and achieve optimal outcomes. Physical therapy goals and plans are designed to help individuals achieve and maintain their optimal level of functioning, self-care, and independence by managing the individual's specific health problems; and maximizing the individual's emotional well-being in accordance with the diagnosis, prognosis, and treatment program. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.3 Clinical records Organization policies and procedures Scoring for TX.5.3 Are the physical rehabilitation services for each individual served guided by a plan that addresses the individual's personal goals and needs for rehabilitation? Score 1 Yes Score 2 With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 Not consistently Score 4 Rarely Score 5 No Standard TX.5.4 Physical rehabilitation services are appropriate to the individual's needs and severity of disease, condition, impairment, or disability. Intent of TX.5.4 Physical rehabilitation services are planned to respond to each individual's unique needs (including age-specific needs) and expectations. An essential element in the planning process is assessment of the severity of the individual's disease, condition, impairment, or disability. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.4 Policies and procedures defining assessment and care planning requirements Protocols Clinical records Scoring for TX.5.4 Are the physical rehabilitation services appropriate to individualized needs? Score 1 Yes Score 2 With a few minor exceptions Score 3 Not consistently Score 4 Rarely Score 5 No Standard TX.5.5 Physical rehabilitation outcomes are restoration, improvement, or maintenance of the individual's optimal level of functioning, self-care, self-responsibility, independence, and quality of life. Intent of TX.5.5 Physical limitations discovered during the rehabilitation assessment are addressed with therapeutic interventions that enhance functional daily living skills and abilities. The plan reflects the clinical conditions requiring the use, application, and intended results of modalities, therapeutic exercises, and orthotic, prosthetic, and assistive devices. These interventions address posture, locomotion, strength, endurance, cardiopulmonary function, balance, coordination, joint mobility, flexibility, and pain. Applied modalities include, but are not limited to, heat, cold, light, air, water, sound, electricity, massage, mobilization, and bronchopulmonary hygiene. These interventions are provided either directly or through referrals, outside sources, or other arrangements. Example of Implementation for TX.5.5 The physical therapist documents the chosen therapeutic interventions in the progress notes and incorporates these interventions into the individual treatment plan. Examples of Evidence of Performance for TX.5.5 Clinical records Interviews with and observations of individuals served Staff interviews Scoring for TX.5.5 a. Are physical therapy interventions provided and documented as described in the intent? b. Does the organization's performance indicate that rehabilitation restores, maintains, or improves the individual's level of functioning? Score 1 a. Yes b. Yes Score 2 a. With a few, minor exceptions b. With a few, minor exceptions Score 3 a. Not consistently b. Not consistently Score 4 a. Rarely b. Rarely Score 5 a. No b. No Home ERROR: Search set not specified to CGI

Magnesium helping migraines ?

2007-05-08 09:05:51

I just read today that American women have the highest incidence of osteoporosis and also take the most calcium. Apparently, the calcium is not absorbed because it is either not combined with magnesium or is in the wrong proportion. The article said that we should take 2x as much calcium as mag. It also said women take too much calcium and that causes health problems. Supposedly, if we take these in the right amounts, it may correct many health problems including migraine. Does anyone know about the right amounts to take? Do we have to be tested to see what we need? I'm sure my doc would probably stare at me blankly if I asked these questions. He's a great listener and likes me to participate in my health care but, he doesn't seem to know alot about nutrition and vitamins. If anyone has this information I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Linda

DOES ANYONE HAVE A SIMILIAR SITUATION?

2007-05-07 23:18:08

HI EVERYONE, MY DAD HAD TRIPLE BYPASS SURGERY LAST MAY. SINCE THEN TWO OF THE BYPASSES HAVE CLOSED. HE CAN'T DO VERY MUCH WITHOUT GETTING WINDED AND TIRED. THE DOCTORS SAID HE HAS LEFT VENTRICLE PROBLEMS AND HIS HEART IS WEAK. HE FEELS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL HE STARTS CLIMBING STAIRS OR DOING ANY OTHER PHYSICAL ACTIVITY. HE SAID HE FEELS LIKE THERE IS A LUMP IN HIS CHEST, IT ISN'T PAINFUL JUST ANNOYING. AND HE STILL FEELS LIKE HIS RIBS OR STERNUM ARE PULLING WHEN HE GETS UP FROM SITTING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DOCTORS NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE. I JUST FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM. HE IS ONLY 55, AND HAS TO LIVE LIKE IS MUCH OLDER. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SIMILIAR SYMPTOMS? LETICIA

Comprehensive Accreditation Manual For Hospitals

2007-05-07 22:13:48

I have to agree with Kat. I did not find the huge document useful and it was a time and space waster. Could you not have sent a site where those interested could go to view it? Linda

Andrea

2007-05-07 11:11:42

Andrea, I strongly encourage you to get your husband to seek counseling. I do not believe his behavior is directly related to his surgery, as this is not usually what happens to a person. I do believe he has some deep anger and is lashing out for some reason, and for that he needs some help. Well behaved people do not put dents in new cars, and do not make others' lives "living hell". It seems to me there are issues here other than bypass surgery. Forgive me for being so blunt, but this is simply not ok. My concern is for your safety. Someone making such poor behavior decisions can easily get out of hand. Are you and your children safe? If not, then seek a safe haven until he can deal with whatever is causing him to act inappropriately. If at any time you feel unsafe, then please seek help yourself. You have a right to be safe and to keep your children safe. May I ask if there is substance or alcohol abuse involved? You don't have to answer that here, but if there is, then you yourself should seek an Al-Anon group to help you cope. You have the right to a peaceful life. Ann

Comprehensive Accreditation Manual For Hospitals: The Official

2007-05-07 10:39:36

what was the purpose of sending this huge document???? nothing was underlined.....huh???? took up lots of space for what????? kat

personality change after by_pass?

2007-05-07 01:17:10

Hello All, My husband had his by-pass on 18 july 2002 he has just finnished 8 weeks of rehab, he was moody long before the op but now he is even worse he is nasty & vindictive to me & my 4 children, his surgeon told me directley after the op that my husband had had a heart attack & had alot of damage to the heart this is why he has ventricular premature ectopic beats, my husband has convinced him self he had his first ever Angina attack that gave him unstable angina this is why he had the quad by pass, the ectopic beats will get better once the heart muscle relises it has a blood supply, this weekend he intends to fix his sons car which includes using a manual engine hoist, he refuses to change his diet & apart from rehab does no excercise, he is making my life a living hell, & is being nadty to the kids, i brought a new car last week he went out when he thought i wasnt looking & put a dent in the wing, why is he behaving like this i cant take much more, but he keeps saying he only went through with the op for me some advice please he had 9 litres of blood could this be to blame for his selfish behaviuor? Andrea

For Better Health, Have A Chocolate--Antioxidants ARE IN CHOCOLATE

2007-05-06 22:10:58

For Better Health, Have A Chocolate Good news for chocoholics -- your favorite sweet may be healthy as well as delicious. Dutch researchers have found that chocolate, particularly dark chocolate, contains high levels of catechins, a type of antioxidant. Catechins are also found in black tea, and some studies have suggested that the presence of these antioxidants could account for the lower risk of cardiovascular disease observed in tea drinkers. In their study, published in the British medical journal The Lancet, the Dutch researchers measured the levels of six different catechins in chocolate and tea. They found that dark chocolate had the highest levels of the catechins -- 53.5 mg per 100 g. Milk chocolate had 15.9 mg per 100 g, and black tea had 13.9 mg, the researchers said. However, they found that tea was a more important source of the antioxidants than chocolate for most Dutch people, accounting for 55 percent of total antioxidant intake, while chocolate accounted for 20 percent. As the researchers point out, people are more likely to drink a liter of tea than they are to eat a kilogram of chocolate, Reuters reports.

Pain: Clinical Manual, 2nd Edition

2007-05-06 09:56:19

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:04:08 -0600 From: "Ted Cole" <twcole@... To: <asap@... Subject: Pain Book Message-ID: <012301bee5ad$dcd063a0$522ca1d1@micron400 To those of you that are interested in futhering your education in the field of pain treatment, I would highly recommend that you purchase PAIN: Clinical Manual, 2nd Edition for $39.95 it's worth every cent! This manual explains pain very well and all the problems that have gone with treating pain You can purchase this manual by going to www.mosby.com Once you get there either type in the title or use the ISBN # 0-8151-5609-X This information was provided to me by WICPA the pain organization for the State of Washington and Cris Salsbury the director. This Manual also provides printouts of pain work sheets and other valuable information that you can provide to you doctors. It's a MUST have!!!!!!!!!!! Ted Cole

Next time you want to lose weight.......

2007-05-06 08:19:10

FACT: Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

recovery from bypass

2007-05-06 07:32:24

My father had a massive heart attack. He also had to have bypass surgery. My mom is so upset that he will be mad at her for doing the surgery. If he is not back to being able to take care of himself. He alway said if he had a chance then to put him on the vent. if not let him go. Right now it has been two day since the surgery and he is still on the vent and a pump for his heart. They have tried to take him off. But didn't work yet. what i would like to know from anyone what do i what can happen from here on to recovery. I am in another state then them. Please help me to know what to do. Thank you for reading this letter.

To: Harry K. / Chas.

2007-05-05 22:13:04

Harry is being modest so.... Not only is Harry K a 100 mile biker, but he