Back from vacation...

2007-04-30 16:11:24

The reality of it all... Just wanted to let you all know that I am back from vacation to Ocean City, NJ and back to work this week. It was wonderful. I had never seen the ocean before and it was just, how shall I say, "BREATHTAKING"! Hubby and I had a great time. We walked on the beach, collected sea shells, he even brought home a gallon of sand so I can make some sort of arrangement with a plant and the sea shells or something. We saw dolphins swimming off the shore just yards away. We layed on the beach (with sun protection of course) and just relaxed and enjoyed ourselves. I could get used to that way of life and would think of moving in a minute if the circumstances were right. Needless to say, it was a great vacation and I feel better for it! I got back on the treadmill and my diet right away and actually lost weight on vacation instead of gaining. The myalgia is now gone from the Wellchol and Lipitor so I will call teh doctor to see what he has next up his sleeve as I will go back for follow up cholesterol blood work the second week in October. I didn't even have any edema in the leg and foot while we were gone. Hubby said it did me good and I'm sure it did him some good too. He goes to the doctor tomorrow. He has been having some pain in his leg and into his back and thinks maybe he has a hernia or a pinched nerve or something. We are still working on the Dean Ornish diet and incorporated some of the foods he likes into it seperately (especially for him). Well, I didn't mean to write a book but that's what happens sometimes. Take care and look forward to reading all the messages. Barb

LINDA---ODOURS/CHEMICALS

2007-04-30 14:51:33

LINDA Yes I too have trouble with any chemical, I even use Palmolive dish soap to clean my bathroom as apposed to any cleansers/bleach....I can't use any bleach in laundry so my kids now own grey socks---white is white for 1 day, so they went into garbage and were replaced with all dark coloured or grey socks.....hehehe....I have even walked thru a store by some women that seem to have a plugged up nose, because I can smell their perfume before they arrive in the aisle I am in----I used to love perfumes but can only wear "Patchouli" now which is an aromatherapy fragrance---is suppose to be for depression---hahaha...many stores have strong fragrances so I must avoid those places as well...at times even certain foods cooking can spiral me into migraine in minutes....I was told the occipital nerve in the frontal area of face is very sensitive to migrainers, we tend to "smell" things before others do, I am not sure of the research university that did that study---my doc spoke to me about it over a year ago----but apparently more then 60% of migrainers have this problem, and it is all in part to this occipital nerve----similiar to the findings of migrainers being low in calcium/magnesium on a large scale....just when we think we have "just migraine pain" huh?? all the other factors they throw at us to watch out for......could this just be another excuse for pain docs not to medicate with narcotics???? lol hope your day is fragrance free---which is migraine free.....hahaha roxie

switching emails......

2007-04-30 07:22:08

I am switching email accounts i will inform you of the new one soon......... Out of my mind.....be back in five minutes!

A little better today

2007-04-30 04:45:33

After saying I hadn't had a bad headache for almost two weeks...it all caught up with me last weekend. I was in so much pain Friday night that I barely slept. Saturday I had to stay home from my very part-time job. Sunday was not quite so bad. But Monday was worse and I missed a day of work at my temp office job. Worked yesterday with some headache. And this morning I went in late after taking a Fiorinal and resting some. I may have gotten into rebound because I took Fiorinal throughout the days. But what else is a person supposed to do when they are in pain? My husband was so frustrated about my missing work and not getting things done like grocery shopping. But I find it frustrating, too -- laying in bed or snoozing on the couch all day. I see my new doctor Sept. 7th. Have no idea what meds or other ideas he'll have, but I hope we come up with something that will work. Hope others are feeling well tonight. Jan B.

Poll Question: How long does it take after...

2007-04-30 00:45:52

At about 6 weeks I was still having some minor discomfort and some people were telling me stories they had heard about someone playing tennis before that time. Sarcastcially I said I just wanted to go to the bathroom without any discomfort. I was did first 50 mile cycle ride after 7 months (23 miles was furthest prior to surgery) and first ever 100 miler 11 months after, with some tears last few miles. I do volunteer work now at local hospital for heart surgery and it is amazing how individual recovery can effect diferet individuals. I had 2, 67 year old women have CABG same day and when I visited 3 days post surgery it was hard to beleive they had been through the same operation. i remember telling an amazing 90 year old patient who was going home from hospital he seemed to be in better shape than myself at that time. Harry K

enviornmental triggers

2007-04-29 20:15:28

Kells, I know what you mean. I'm about to be 44 and have had mostly hormonal migraine. However, as years go by I have increasingly been sensitive to environmental triggers such as perfumes (a biggie), cigarrette smoke(alway been a problem),etc. I'm currently investigating whether my headaches correlate with low/high pressure systems as I always seem to have a blinding HA when the weather suddenly turns delightfully sunny and gorgeous. This is before I even look out the window so it's not the sunlight trigger. All types of chemicals bother me and I go to great lengths to avoid them-even to the detriment of my garden,which I love, sometimes. Does anyone else have this trigger? Let's hear from you... Good Health, Linda

nitro

2007-04-29 14:26:33

Oh, yeah -- Almost forgot to mention: If you are ever in the hospital for cardiac reasons and they give you immediate medication for your heart (as opposed to long-term meds), expect to get the worst headache of your life as your cranial blood vessels dilate along with the cardiac ones. Note that the beta-blockers were developed for cardiac conditions and are now used also for migraine prevention. We have our own internal "ecology" and you can't mess with one part w/o affecting others...

chemicals & blood vessels

2007-04-29 04:24:02

Susan -- Yeah -- gotta watch out for the nitrate & nitrites in preserved meats (lunch meats) -- they expand the blood vessels also (and, at least in my case, are cumulative). I have to regard a b-l-t as an occasional treat instead of a staple. The worst case I ever heard of in this area was years ago at a munitions factory where employees became addicted to work. It seems that they were absorbing minute amounts of nitroglycerine all the time they were at work (pre-OSHA), so their cardiac blood vessels became accustomed to being enlarged (nitroglycerine for angina, remember?). If they went on vacation (longer than a weekend off work), their blood vessels returned to "normal" giving them angina attacks. Scary *and* funny, but a lesson regarding environmental influences. Anything that can dilate blood vessels (nitrates, low pressure weather, etc.) can and does induce migraines. The fact that we take vaso-constrictors to stop them is why too much too frequently can cause bounce-back headaches. Also why it's not good to stop certain meds too suddenly.

Exploring the Pathways of Pain- Wichitia Online

2007-04-28 18:19:50

Wichita Online 825 E. Douglas Wichita, Kan. 67202 316.268.6614 Home Updated TUESDAY August 10, 1999 Exploring the pathways of pain Those who suffer say they're willing to try anything to find relief. By Felice J. Freyer Knight Ridder News Service CHARLESTOWN, R.I. --Eileen A. Noble keeps a heating pad on her shoulder, a knit cuff on her wrist, a pillow under her arm and a blanket over her elbow. Her manicured hand curls a little, the fingers bent from disuse. From time to time, she uses her left hand to gingerly adjust the coverings, as if fussing over a baby at her side. Her right arm has hurt, nonstop, for four years. It started as a case of carpal-tunnel syndrome, followed by a related inflammation in the shoulder. Surgery corrected the underlying problems, but the pain nerves in Noble's arm took no note of the improvement. Noble suffers from a form of neuropathic pain -- pain that emerges not from an injury to tissue but from a malfunction of the nervous system itself. Only in recent years have doctors begun to understand the physiological processes that underlie such disorders, and they are still a long way from finding a cure. But in exploring the pathways of pain, doctors have developed a new appreciation for how pain works and how important it is to keep it under control. "Pain, historically, was more a religious experience -- the idea that suffering was good for you," says Frederick Burgess, an anesthesiologist who directs the Interventional Pain Management Clinic at Rhode Island Hospital. "Now we're realizing that suffering can lead to more pain and more problems." The function of pain is to alert you to an injury. If your broken ankle hurts when you put weight on it, you'll know to ease up until it heals. "Pain is useful in terms of making the diagnosis," says Burgess. "After that, it's useless." Pain is probably at its most troublesome when it's chronic. And in treating chronic pain, Burgess says, "Realistically, our outcomes aren't that great." He tries to bring the pain under control so people can function better in spite of it, but rarely does he see a "cure." Some forms of chronic pain, such as arthritis or certain backaches, occur because of a continuing physical irritant. Other forms happen because the nerves themselves are injured or sick -- such as when the pain of shingles continues after the shingles attack ends; pain caused by cancer that has infiltrated the nerves; pain at the site of a spinal-cord injury; or the strange disorder that struck Eileen Noble. It started in September 1995. Noble, 51, was working as a certification nurse at Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Rhode Island, typing information about coverage into computers. She developed carpal-tunnel syndrome, a common injury in such jobs. The pain started in her wrist and progressed up her arm. The following May, she had surgery to open the carpal tunnel in her wrist, relieving the pressure on the nerve. She waited for the pain to get better. Instead, her shoulder started hurting. She was diagnosed with an inflammation of the shoulder joint. Surgery, she was assured, would make that better. She waited for the pain to stop. Finally, in August 1996, her orthopedists diagnosed her with an ailment so obscure that there's no agreement on what to call it. Most patients call it RSD, short for reflexive sympathetic dystrophy. But doctors consider the name misleading and prefer "complex regional pain syndrome." Noble had a hard time believing the diagnosis. "I kept on thinking 'I'm just taking longer than the average person to get over this.' " In February 1997, Noble went to Burgess's pain clinic. He found her clutching her tender arm to her side, her fingers constricted. She couldn't bear to be touched. There is no single treatment that consistently works for chronic pain, especially for the syndrome that afflicts Noble. So Burgess had a menu of options. He started at the top and worked his way down. "If you look at how we treat pain," says Burgess, "it hasn't changed since the 1800s." There are essentially two lines of attack: opiates, such as morphine and its derivatives, which mimic the body's own natural painkillers and work at the spinal-cord level; and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as aspirin and ibuprofen, which block inflammation at the peripheral nerves. Recently, doctors have tried other medicines as well. Drugs that block the glutamate receptors, including the common cough suppressant dextramethorphan, sometimes can still the nerve excitability. Drugs used to prevent seizures may block some of the sodium and calcium channels in the nerves, reducing erratic pain signals. Antidepressants -- even when the patient is not depressed -- can help, possibly by releasing natural painkillers. Drugs to block selected nerves can sometimes cause things to calm down, bringing long-term improvement for some people. Eileen Noble tried them all. Most treatments didn't work, had intolerable side effects or brought only temporary relief. "I was groping for anything that would work," she says. "If they said, 'We need to take your head off, rearrange it and put it back on,' I would have said, 'OK.' " Finally she got to the last item on Burgess's list: the spinal stimulator, a device implanted into the spine that provides a continuous electric current. It produces a kind of static that prevents the spinal cord from "hearing" the "noise" from the disordered nerves. It may also trigger the release of natural painkillers. "It worked for the first few months famously," Noble says. But over time the stimulator was less effective, and in any case, her body rejected it. She had it taken out. Because emotions are such an important part of pain, Burgess usually refers his patients to Ronald Thebarge, a psychologist who runs a group that helps people cope with chronic pain. Some object at first, thinking the referral means their pain is viewed as imaginary. But Burgess knows the pain is real. He also knows that all the treatments in his arsenal usually can't wipe it out. So people need to learn how to live with it, and that takes guidance. One of the first tasks Thebarge's patients face is to accept that they have chronic pain. "Not to give up," he says, "but to accept that this is the reality." "The sooner you can accept it, the more chance you have of reducing suffering and making effective choices about what to do with your life."

Poll Question: How long does it take after CABG Surgery, to FULLY r

2007-04-28 15:31:48

I wish to address the results of the poll question: How long does it take after CABG Surgery, to FULLY recover from the operation? I had a triple bypass in 1997 at age 50. I was sent home from the hospital three days following surgery and went out to a party five days later. By using positive attitude, meditation, guided visualization and fearlessness, I discovered that I could overcome all or most of the customary and expected hurdles my doctors told me I would be up against. You can read the entire story of my experience in "Zen and the Art of Major Surgery Without Fear or Pain" at www.zenhealing.com/articles/majorsurgery_personalexperience.htm. I hope others will find inspiration in surmounting their own personal struggle. Namaste, Zen Buddhist Holyman, Chas Kroll chas8491@...

working hard

2007-04-28 10:49:37

Out of my mind.....be back in five minutes!

I feel awful....

2007-04-27 23:12:13

I can't get rid of this lingering migraine. Its not full strength but it's interfering with my day. I don't feel like doing anything. I would love to lie in bed all day but that's kind of hard to do with a toddler. Just wanting to vent about this stupid irritating migraine!!! ARRRRRRGH!!! ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

[Verapamil]

2007-04-27 20:22:56

Susan, I've been on Verapamil since the end of March, and I've never got dizzy with it. I started out on 120 mg, and I'm now on 180 mg. I don't have migraines as long as I'm on it, I came off of it for less than a week and started having migraines again, so I had to go back on it. Take care, Tammi A question for all you Verapamil users out there... How long does it take to get rid of the dizzies if they're going to go away?

Hi everyone,

2007-04-27 18:20:41

Hi all, I'm Karen I just discovered this group today & thought it would be good to join as it would be nice to be in touch with people who have been through the same sort of thing as me!! Just a little bit about myself. I'm 27 & i'm from New Zealand. I've been living in England for the last 4 years. I was born with a hole in my heart, a leaky valve & a couple of other things as well!!!! I had the valve replaced first when i when 4, then again when i was 17. I just recently had it done again. I went home at the start of th year & had my op on the first of March. I had my tricuspid & pulmanary valve replaced & a pace maker wire attached (no pace maker just yet though!) I came back to England the start of June & am doing pretty well. Still have the odd bad day here & there of course! Would love to get in touch with anyone in a similar situation. Just send me a e.mail! Karen

film

2007-04-27 05:14:25

Old cellulose-based film is more than flammable -- it's almost explosive. Very closely related to nitro-cellulose, otherwise known as gun cotton. In the days before plastic coated playing cards, they were coated with something like nitro-cellulose (anyone old enough to have chewed a corner of a playing card as a kid might remember the bitter taste). All of these things are only a step or two from being converted from a highly flammable substance to an outright explosive. And as for the decay fumes causing migraines, remember that things like nitroglycerine are administered to enlarge blood vessels. If the fumes are a trigger, do not go to see drag racing -- they are fueled with nitro-methane and it smells a lot like a day at the shooting range...

Triglyceride treatment

2007-04-27 03:04:43

Recently had blood work done. Thanks to the medicine, diet and exercise, everything was good - except triglycerides were at 200. Any thoughts for taking care of this with diet, non-prescription drugs or otherwise ? Thanks! Dave C.

Well I went 20 days...

2007-04-27 00:11:10

w/o a migraine and got one yesterday. I think the sun triggered it. I laid out in the sun and didn't wear sunglasses and when I came in I was starting to get a headache. I didn't take anything and of course it developed into a migraine. Can sunlight trigger one? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

a "touchy" question, haha

2007-04-26 16:52:40

Marcella, Just had to answer this question for you. Keep in mind that I am 37 years and didn't have the MI. I was ready at 2 weeks post-op. I'm not saying it was the typical night of "romance", nor was it the best I've ever had, but it was worth the risk! I figured at worst I'd die happy! Tell your husband not to place much emphasis on it, but do give it the `ole college try", he might surprise himself... Best of luck to you all, Brian

Speedy Recovery

2007-04-26 05:56:53

Collin, Wishing you a speedy recovery. Thinking of you. Barb

New trigger! oddball story - kinda long

2007-04-26 00:04:56

Hi Susan: Interesting and funny story about the film. Fortunately, it doesn't affect me as all of the film I've shot is modern, polyester-based product. Unless you meant something about my feet...! :-) I hadn't heard about cellulose-based film smelling but I'm pretty sure I've read that it's extremely flammable. Is that true? Jeff

Query

2007-04-25 20:41:36

Are there any staistics on the hypothesis that pain endurance is 40% or less in men than in women at certain age ranges. If so where can I find the statistics? Robert

Fw: new virus warning

2007-04-25 15:35:29

I know that the warning of the virus was sent in good faith, but I can put everyone's mind at ease. It's another hoax. Someone starts these stories and then people trying to help others spread them. Anti-virus software companies such as Symantec and Network Associates (McAfee) have information about the latest hoaxes, as well as the latest viruses, on their web sites. I subscribe to several daily newsletters from PC Magazine and they're always quick to notify us about major new viruses and there's been nothing at all about a "California" virus. They had detailed coverage of both the "Melissa" and "Chernobyl" viruses, so I'm confident that if the "California" virus existed, they'd have said something about it days ago. This is a good opportunity to remind people who use the Internet that it's very foolish not to have anti-virus software. When you get it, be sure to update it regularly. I get new updates every month (free of charge) from McAfee and they will issue extra fixes when a particularly nasty virus is unleashed. Many viruses are triggered by specific dates, such as the anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster, and I think that the twisted people who write viruses are sure to try to unleash many of them on "Y2K Day". It's one thing to be Y2K-ready, but if you don't have anti-virus software and you download anything from the Internet (not including e-mail, but definitely including attachments to e-mail), then you're asking for big trouble. Jeff

Topamax as a weight loss drug ALSO

2007-04-25 04:58:15

This is a drug Johns Hopkins put me on, Topamax, as a preventative for my migraines. We love those multi purpose drugs. I have heard of a higher dose than I am on as I haven't noticed an improvement in this arena...so I think I need an increase! Blondielou ****************************************** Blocking the binge: UF researchers explore treatment for uncontrolled eating By Eric Benjamin Lowe GAINESVILLE, Fla.---A medication for epilepsy holds promise of also helping people who suffer from binge eating, according to a University of Florida psychiatrist. In a small pilot study, nine of 13 patients who used the anticonvulsant medication topiramate reported long-term decreased incidence of binge eating episodes, with four patients ending uncontrolled consumption completely, said Dr. Nathan Shapira, an assistant professor of psychiatry at UF's College of Medicine. Shapira, who led the research effort while on the faculty of the University of Cincinnati, presented the findings today in a poster session at the World Psychiatric Association conference in Hamburg, Germany. "What we really found intriguing here is that, for many of these patients, nothing else had worked previously, not only for their binge eating but also for any other psychiatric problems they may have had," Shapira said. While the results are promising, he cautioned that the drug's effectiveness remains to be verified in larger, placebo-controlled trials. Such trials also would help determine the most effective dosages. Topiramate was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 1996 for epilepsy. Clinical trials for that use had demonstrated an appetite-suppressant effect, which led researchers to begin preliminary tests of it for binge eating. Some practitioners also are using it as a mood stabilizer to treat such disorders as depression and manic depression-illnesses sometimes accompanied by binge eating. People with binge eating disorder have episodes in which they consume large amounts of food in a short period of time and feel out of control with their eating. It is considered a distinct diagnosis from bulimia, a binge disorder characterized by the additional feature of purging. Those with binge eating disorder are often clinically obese and turn to food in response to what is occurring in their environment rather than physical hunger cues. An estimated one-third of those seeking treatment for obesity have binge eating disorder, according to Dr. Toby Goldsmith a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at UF and director of the women's program at the Shands at UF Psychiatry Specialty Clinic. She said that a major problem with many weight-loss programs is that binge eating is rarely addressed. "The fact that this is not being addressed is what is setting them up for a letdown," Goldsmith said. "Of the people going in for treatment for obesity, most of them will gain back their weight within one to five years." Goldsmith, also a former faculty member at the University of Cincinnati, said that prior to the study, most of the patients had binged at least once a day. After long-term treatment, ranging from seven months to two years, four patients had complete remission of binge eating, and five had more than a 50 percent decrease in average number of binge episodes per month. One had more than a 25 percent decrease in average monthly binge episodes, and two other patients had an initial decrease of more than 50 percent, but their binge frequency increased over time. One showed little or no improvement. The study participants were all women who had additional psychological conditions, including bipolar disorder (also known as manic-depression), obsessive-compulsive disorder and clinical depression. Topiramate was added to their medication regimen, producing a mix of responses in these other conditions. Further studies are needed to determine whether it would work equally well in binge disorder patients who are not suffering from other illnesses and taking other therapeutic drugs. The participants were followed for periods ranging from seven months to two years. At the end of the research period, eight remained on the drug. One woman who had shown more than a 50 percent decrease in binge episodes discontinued the medication because of side effects. The drug is not addictive, which may allow patients to take it for extended periods. It often produces mild to moderate side effects, including nausea, tingling in the fingers and toes, word-finding cognitive difficulties and fatigue. People taking topiramate also are considered to be at an increased risk of developing kidney stones.

Chocolate, Coffee & Me

2007-04-25 02:37:43

I personally hate coffee so it doesn't have an impact on me. I don't have any food migraine triggers...mine are all environmental sensory overload trigger stimuli based....light...flickering, fluorscent, nightglare from headlights, strong; strong odor from perfume, household chemicals, paint, etc.; loud noise; vibration from car/plane; crying; sleeping too much/too little, etc. I eat chocolate occasionally...sometimes daily but then I don't have migraines when I do so it isn't because of the chocolate.... I guess I am lucky that way..but then I hardly ever can even open up my drapes. And these environmental triggers are getting worse each year!!! And I'm only 41! Blondielou

Learn About Bypass

2007-04-25 00:02:24

St. Jude Medical has recently added a new resource entitled "Learn About Bypass" to their website www.SJM.com It can be reached directly at www.LearnAboutBypass.com Topics include 'Your Heart', 'Heart Disease', 'Bypass Surgery', and 'Success Stories'. There is also an excellent section on Valve Selection Criteria at www.OneValveForLife.com, also by St. Jude Medical. LOTS of GOOD INFORMATION is avialable at these sites. 'AL'

Quite Welcome

2007-04-24 16:13:02

First, Melissa, you are quite welcome... I currently send out URLs on chronic pain, opioids and chronic pain health conditions to over 7 different sites, 5 different doctors and over a dozen individuals who are not signed up to any pain group. I am the Chief Pain Researcher of Chronic Pain Cooperate and the ASAP Librarian. At Paininfonet, a group of my links are being added to periodically with the newest on the bottom. My purpose is to EDUCATE.....EDUCATE THE PATIENT WHO CAN THEN EDUCATE THE DOCTOR../ And then hopefully get some pain relief... The more we know, the more we have a chance... And I spread it around because I want EVERYONE to have pain relief... I have 3 pain conditions and the chronic daily headaches/occasional migraines are just one of the three! Doctors DON'T get the education they need in med school SO WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THEM NOW!!! Blondielou

Coffee "Good for Your Heart"

2007-04-24 05:38:36

As these often don't show up once I send them (people are disappointed to try to open up a URL and it is no longer there), I have copied them to a new file...so that is why it is not being sent as a URL.. I won't be sending many this way and they are short articles... Blondielou ************************* Coffee 'good for your heart' By Antoine Banet-Rivet COFFEE drinkers enjoy better health and are less likely to die from a heart attack than tea lovers, according to a new study. Doctors have found that the higher the coffee consumption, the lower the risk of heart disease, while for tea drinkers the opposite is true. The study of 11,000 people, published today in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health dispels the popular belief that coffee, which is known to alter heart rhythms, has a adverse effect on people's health. The research, conducted on men and women in Scotland aged between 40 and 59, found that the risk of dying from a heart attack doubled for men if they drank five cups of tea rather than five cups of coffee. Likewise, women who drank tea were 50 per cent more likely to die from a heart attack than those who drank coffee. Researchers sent questionnaires to randomly selected people as part of the Scottish Heart Health Study, asking them how much coffee, tea and alcohol they drank and other lifestyle questions such as whether or not they smoked. Those who took part in the study gave blood to be analysed and had the health of their hearts assessed. The probability of death from all causes and the risk of heart attack and bypass surgery was then analysed according to the consumption of each individual. When adjustments were made for age, smoking, and blood pressure, there was still a moderate health benefit for those drinking coffee compared with no benefit for those who drank tea. "This is an interesting finding which seems to contradict all previous studies, said Professor Hugh Tunstall-Pedoe, co-author of the study. "It might be attributable to a real effect of coffee or to chance. Coffee and tea drinking habits may be simply identifying two groups of people with very different lifestyles," he said. The researchers found that in extreme cases people drank up to 21 cups of coffee and 36 cups of tea a day. Coffee drinkers tended to be younger and increasing tea consumption was found to be associated with increasing social and economic deprivation. Home |UK News |International |Business |Sport | Columnists |Comment |Letters |

Thanks blodielou...

2007-04-24 04:25:03

for all the great sites you have been posting! ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

A chocolate a day might keep the doctor away

2007-04-23 22:01:48

OH IF THAT WERE ONLY TRUE---NO DOCTORS... [shaking head, just dreaming...wistfully....Blondielou] A chocolate a day might keep the doctor away 1:06 p.m. ET (1707 GMT) August 6, 1999 NEW YORK, Aug 06 (Reuters Health) Chocolate particularly dark chocolate contains high levels of antioxidants, suggesting that the much-maligned sweet might actually be good for you. In a new study, chocolate was found to have four times the level of catechins, a type of antioxidant, compared with black tea. Some studies have suggested that tea-drinkers have a lower risk of cardiovascular disease and possibly cancer though the link is not conclusive. However, if the protective health effect is due to the catechins in tea, the health benefit may extend to chocolate as well, according to Dr. Ilja C.W. Arts, of the National Institute of Public Health and Environment, Bilthoven, the Netherlands, and colleagues. In the study, the Dutch researchers analyzed the amount of six different catechins and found that dark chocolate contained the highest level, at 53.5 milligrams of catechins per 100 grams. Milk chocolate contained 15.9 milligrams per 100 grams, and black tea contained 13.9 milligrams per 100 milliliters, according to a report in the August 7th issue of The Lancet. "Since it is probably more enjoyable to drink 1 liter of tea than to eat 1 kilogram of chocolate, we aimed to find out the importance of chocolate as a source of catechins in the habitual diet,'' the authors write. They found that tea was the most important source of the antioxidants, making up 55% of total intake of the antioxidants by Dutch citizens. However, chocolate was an important source too, making up 20% of the total intake in this population. The findings have important implications for studies of the health effects of tea, the investigators note, which should take into account other sources of catechins, such as chocolate. "In the end,'' the researchers conclude, "the old Dutch habit of drinking a cup of tea and eating a chocolate cookie might be not only enjoyable but healthy as well.'' SOURCE: The Lancet 1999;354:488. comments@... © 1999, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. All rights reserved. Fox News is a registered trademark of 20th Century Fox Film Corp. © Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved

Topamax, Dr. Robbins, etc.

2007-04-23 19:56:10

Sue H, First, I sent the WEBSITE of Dr. Lawrence Robbins, he is out of Chicago....If I can't work it with my local pain specialist to do the DHE outpatient, I may be taking a trip to Chicago! The inpatient DHE IV worked well; I felt great for 3 weeks but then it went back to normal.... Dr. Robbins is the only one I have seen mention OUTpatient DHE and doing REPEATED ones....THAT MIGHT WORK FOR ME.... No, I wish I had lost weight on Topamax...boo hoo...but then at 100 mg maybe I'm not on a high enough dose!!! I could lost about 25.... Write me privately with your doc's name and address so I can mention them to my doctor to ask him to try the Topamax at a higher level (and possibly eliminating the Verapamil). Thanks! Blondielou

Can anyone send me or show me where to go...

2007-04-23 04:05:16

to get a migraine diary. I want to record when I get my migraines and what I ate that day that may have triggered it. Thanks. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

We want to hear what you have to say about Migraine Headaches!

2007-04-22 22:23:10

Here's a headache survey.

Topamax and Appetite

2007-04-22 16:58:47

Susan, I do think Topamax HELPS but it doesn't do it all by any means for me...at the time I started taking it 3 or 4 years ago it did lessen the intensity and lower the frequency so I have continued to take it..I am on 100 mg taking it once a day at night. What dose are you on? My appetite fluctuates wildly.. My blood pressure is always low..been low all my life. It is always lower at home (i have a monitor...my lowest reading was 88/55 and at that same time my husband did his and it was 138/78 so it wasn't the blood pressure monitor) Now I just went to the doctor 2 days ago and at the doctor's office, it was 110/70 which is common as they have had me walk around, take weight, talk, etc. I read a paper that said a blood pressure reading should be taken after you have sat quietly without moving or talking for 15 minutes....AND THAT THAT IS YOUR CORRECT READING. I am always nervous going to the doctor even though I like this doctor... I have just gone on Cytomel changing from Synthyroid since being on it in 1985 for my chronic hypothryoidism/small goiter. I actually think my recent changes I have had are due to this. I was put on an anti depressant and gained 20 lbs 2 years ago and I finally JUST lost it... Only when I had my thyroid increased could I lose it...but then I am also on opioid daily pain management therapy for my "chronic intractable failed neck pain syndrome (status-post cervical fusion)"...diagnosis from Hopkins where I had the original surgery. The fusion did work BUT ONLY FOR 6 MONTHS ....and then the exact same pain, intensity and location, returned. This is classic sign of arachnoiditis as scar tissue takes 6-9 months to form...but of course docs who do the tests (myleogram, discogram) or surgery ARENT going to indicate that one has arachnoiditis as they then would imply that they caused it...or possible lawsuit... So instead all those "failed spinal surgeries" are almost always arachnoiditis. I'm glad you like Topamax so much. I do also but need MUCH MORE.... in my headache management plan. Blondielou

Estrogen Pellets May Help Treat Menstrual Migraines

2007-04-22 15:42:09

Hi, everyone! Here's an interesting article I discovered which the female members of the list might found of interest. Then, again, who knows .... maybe the guys would be interested in the estrogen pellets if it got rid of those darn migraines!!! Hope everyone is doing alright. I am doing a little better. Still have some dreadful migraines. Just got over a three day one at the beginning of the week, but they are a bit fewer and further between. The daily headaches still linger as well, but I can atleast function with those. Diann

Practice what you preach!

2007-04-22 06:35:46

Ken, thanks for the email. I guess I was sort of feeling sorry for myself. Hubby and I had a long talk this afternoon and we are going to try harder on this diet thing. He wants me to do well and has promised to quit complaining. I have agreed to make smaller portions of them main (low fat,low cholesterol,low sodium) dishes and fix an alternate for him. He does not have a weight problem. He does not have heart disease, he is not hypoglycemic, and should not be forced to eat what I eat. He does not mind some of it. I have a list of those dishes he will accept. I am not generally tempted by what he eats anyway. I have will power. I will be strong. I can do this. I will "practice what I preach". To a better tomorrow. Thank to everyone for listening. Barb

THE CONQUERING PAIN ACT OF 1999 not pain relief promotion act

2007-04-22 04:22:40

Message: 12 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 16:47:28 -0400 From: Skip Baker <skipb@... Subject: The Pain Relief Promotion Act of 1999 The Pain Relief Promotion Act of 1999 would amend the Controlled Substances Act and provide for federal penalties for physicians or pharmacists who prescribe or dispense controlled substances for patients at the end of life. The act provides that narcotics can be used to alleviate pain even it they shorten life, but such drugs cannot be used to aid a citizen's demise. That last line in itself is a total contradiction in terms yet there it is in this bill, so what doctor would dare treat pain when he wouldnt know where he stood legally if he did? The bottom line is that Henry Hyde and Senator Nickles wrote this bill because they are opposed to the Suicide Law in Oregon, and their attempts to deal with it last year failed over an onslaught from everyone concerned with the Pain Crisis. Since their Lethal Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 1998 didnt fly, they tried to tack it onto the Budget bill at the last minute once they saw solid opposition to it, and even that failed. The Pain Relief Promotion Act of 1999 is only THIS years attempt to kill the Oregon Suicide Law. Making it look like a bill to improve pain relief, seemed like a good idea at the time, but when you look closely it has fatal flaws, that if passed, would just increase our suffering as Chronic Pain Patients! Its nearly impossible to get pain medication as it is! As the The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC) reports in an article by David Work on July 30, entitled: Relief from the Pain Relief Act he points out that the National Hospice Organization has endorsed the current bill. And at first glance this looks like a good bill, in describing palliative care as a positive concept. As one looks closer however it becomes obvious that it would hinder the treatment of pain even more than our present situation does, which is described by NIH as a "National Disaster in the under treatment of pain. Anymore road blocks put up before doctors who would dare treat pain, and we may as well set up Euthanasia Centers all over the country to take care of the extra suicides that it would cause. The irony is that its his religious opposition to suicide that drives Henry Hyde to keep coming up with these bills in the first place. If he just didnt have that rabid opposition to narcotic pain medicine for chronic pain then there wouldnt be this problem go begin with. As Mr. Work writes in his article: The end-of-life position is fine as religious doctrine but its crossover to law creates obvious trouble. For example, in traditional Christian dogma confession is the first step toward forgiveness and salvation. On the other hand, confession under the Federal Controlled Substances Act, is the first step toward harsh penalties. This is one good example of why religion and government just don't mix. Citizens in Oregon have twice passed this law aimed at permitting a person suffering great pain to get help from their doctors to die. The irony is how hard it is to get ANYTHING for pain in both Washington and Oregon, so I think the Oregon Suicide Law came out of that problem of no narcotic pain relief no matter how bad you may hurt. Provide adequate access to pain medicine to the folks in Oregon, and they wont want a Suicide Law in the first place, but Hyde and Nickles just cant seem to see that fact. The Hyde/Nickles bill looks to be a real gift horse in that it provides for millions of dollars for a grant to study pain, and why its not being treated, but we already KNOW why its not being treated, and weve had countless studies already learning the impediment is the extra Constitutional powers of the DEA that is holding it up! Remove the DEA as a road block to pain control, and you will accomplish everything that Hyde and Nickles seek to accomplish and do it fast to boot. The Conquering Pain Act of 1999 by Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon on the other hand, is a far better bill that "enjoys the support of doctors, nurses and pain advocates all over the nation, so why not go that direction? As author Work points out: The Hyde/Nickles bill is an unwarranted interference in states' rights when federal action on a DEA registrant could effectively prevent pharmacists or physicians from practicing their profession even though they have valid state licenses. Remember, THIS is the bill we want passed into law: The Conquering Pain Act of 1999. And THIS is the bill we DONT want passed: The Pain Relief Promotion Act of 1999. To remember it just think that it is better to Conquer something, than it is to be a Promoter of something, and that will help you keep them separate. Skip Baker --

Topamax &amp; IDEAS???

2007-04-22 02:05:41

I have been on Topamax for over 3, maybe 4 years.. I was prescribed it from my previous doc at Johns Hopkins...I didn't think it worked until I was late in sending in my mail order prescription. While I was waiting for it to come through the mail, MY HEADACHES INCREASED. So....based on that, I would say that the Topamax works...I take one pill at night. I am also on Verapamil twice a day, also prescribed by my former doc at Hopkins. They prescribed Migranal and DHE shots...worked for maybe 3 mos...then NOT. So now since I am no longer there, I am taking what my local internist/gp had me on which was Midrin (boosted with 2 or 3 aspirin) and if that doesn't work (and take it at the VERY first twinge of discomfort), then it is on to the Percocet. If it is the Percocet, then it is lately 3 to start and also take the 2 or 3 aspirin, have pro or hubby do manual physical therapy in the form of an osteopathic type called craniosacral therapy and then lie down in dark, quiet room with bag of ice on my head. If I take the Percocet and KEEP LIVING...then the headache just escalates into KILLER MIGRAINE. I have yet to find anything that I could take and KEEP FUNCTIONING...Or to help with desensitizing me from all my headache triggers which are environmental sensory overload triggers: light, smell, noise, vibration, crying, sleeping too little/too much, etc. ANY IDEAS??? Lately this has been enough...occasionally it can take 2-8 Percocet. I have just made arrangements with my local doc to have him call or meet me at the local ER if necessary for the next KILLER migraine I get when I vomit...Last one I vomited for 24 hours straight so I couldn't even get the Percocet down me to start working!!! I have never been to an ER but I wasted 5 days with this one...between the migraine and then trying to get my low blood pressure (88/55--WHAT'S YOURS!!!????), dizziness and all my drugs going back in without throwing them up!!! I have even contacted Dr. Lawrence Robbins and he had never heard of Topamax used for headaches THEN but it was over a year ago. Hope the Topamax works for you! Blondielou

Jeff...

2007-04-21 14:57:37

I have bad allergies and I could swear they helped cause some of my migraines but I guess after reading some of the posts they don't. I take Claritin (half the time it doesn't even help). ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Problems with food

2007-04-21 05:58:21

Hi everybody. I have a question that I was wondering if anybody had an answer for. The medication that I'm on has drastically effected my tastebuds. Everything generally speaking either tastes awful, or has little taste at all. The textures of food can at times make me sick. What's worse, is that since I can no longer work, I am the chief cook and bottle washer. Trying to figure out what to make each day for supper is an absolute nightmare. I spent two hours the other day wandering up and down the aisles in a grocery store trying to figure out what wouldn't make me sick. I've tried vegetable diets, no fat diets, low fat diets, pizza diets (that one was my own invention), and still the problem remains. It's difficult too when you consider the fact that I also have diabetes and I'm supposed to eat regularly. Does anybody have any suggestions? Phil

Sternum Wires Problem

2007-04-21 02:57:05

I had 3*CABG on 16th May 2002 and around a month after the operation my chest incision started to flare up. This has caused a 5 inch open wound which really hasn't healed up during the summer. I had daily dressings applied by my GP and even a visit to the ER when 2 clips started to appear in the wound, however everyone thought things would gradually heal up given time. However on advice from my cariologist I re-visited the admitting hospital and my surgeon last Friday advised that a further operation was required to remove the clips which may have reacted with my body, hence the chest-wound. I will be admitted Tuesday 10th September to have 6 wires removed and my chest wound cleaned and re-stitched internally. The operation I am told is routine and will only involve an overnight stay due to the general anestetic given during the treatment. I am not really looking forward to this return visit to the hospital however I need to get this complication sorted out. Colin. Scotland.

[Re: 3 diff. opinions]]

2007-04-20 22:36:01

Jeff, I've had the allergy testing, and use avoidance and Benadryl for my allergies. I'm allergic to stuff I can't avoid though (grass, trees, weeds, dust mites...etc) I used flonase once, and it made me worse. glad it works for you. Take care, Tammi I've developed some allergies in recent years. Rather than do all of the tests, my doctor suggested that I try taking a Benadryl on my bad days and use Flonase (yes, another nasal spray-delivered drug) every day Jeff

[Re: [Re: Depakote]]]

2007-04-20 11:15:12

Jeff, Good Luck and hope the increase helps you. Sounds like your doctor is like mine, and don't really know what to do so he just tries increases of the same med. IF the could only understand these headaches, then they might actually be able to help us all. Hope you are feeling well. Take care, Tammi He's increasing me from three x 40mg pills of Corgard (Nadolol) daily to first four, then six per day. Instead of taking them all before bed, I'm to take three twice a day. He wants to see me again in two months. Jeff

massage

2007-04-20 10:45:48

Hey everyone. I recently got a really fabulous deep tissue/shiatsu massage, and found it very helpful. It was, however, kind of pricey. Have any of you convinced insurance to pay for regular massages? If you have, how did you get them to pay for it? Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117

Diet, Veg,etc.

2007-04-19 21:27:47

*All suggestions below are layman's suggestions, based on the writer's experience * Barb, the doc is 'putting to much pressure' eh? What about what you want? Don't you want to be as healthy as possible, even feel good? I would suggest you set your own do-able goals for weight loss, exercise, and improved health. Ornish is an extreme example; I tried it, and due to the relatively high amount of carbs I was eating, my triglycerides were not doing too well. I now eat 'heathy' meats in small amounts (chicken, turkey, and bean -based chili dishes with just enough meat for flavoring). Some fish can be heart-healthy too. I don't think the Atkins diet is for everybody , either, though it has worked for many. I say, minimize the bad things and try to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. With your triglycerides, a low-carb orientation (NOT fixation or fanaticism) might be a good starting place. But I don't think chesesburgers every day is a good idea, either, as Atkins seems to suggest. Cutting out sweets (ALL of thme, sodas, cookies, ice cream, etc) will put a big dent in your triglycerides, I would guess. For years, I have been taking B vitamins; Folic, Niacin and Multi-B Complex. Now, recently, it appears on T.V. that these are 'heart-helpful' . Check it out. As for exercise, you know a safe level from your cariac rehab. It is now up to you to get out there 3-5 times a week.(I DO recommend rest days !) Hang in there, you will get better !. Harold

Article On Migraines

2007-04-19 17:51:54

I really appreciate the article you put on the web site about migraine treatment! My doctor's name was listed in the biblography. I can see where the Michigan Head Pain and Neurological Inst. teaches their patients about so much that is in the article. I am waiting for a bed to go in for detox. I was in last summer, and it is NO FUN but it kept them undercontrol up to the last couple of months. Thanks Again, I am printing it out! Suzanne skrohn@...

Vegetarian Diet

2007-04-19 11:05:02

Has anyone heard of, read, or might be using one of the Dean Ornish books, "Reversing Heart Disease"? My endocrinologist insists that the best thing for me to do is to adopt the Dean Ornish style of eating. I am having a difficult time with weight and my cholesterol levels are not good after the most recent test. My triglycerides are up to 435 and my HDL is dropping again and is currently at 25. I cut out the hard candy and switched to fruit. This diet is very hard to implement into daily life. 1) the cost of the supplies needed for the receipes, 2) the time it takes to prepare the meals, I am back to work full time, 3) the dishes are not that interesting and or tasteful, 4) hubby swears that I am trying to kill him. We have been trying for the past three weeks and we are at wits end aside from the fact that I gained four pounds instead of loosing. I have felt like throwing in the towel this past week. Weight has always been a problem for me. I don't think I will ever be thin, never was. Weight has been a problem all my life. I do however feel better since my surgery (4.5 months post-op) and am exercing regularly,( I finish my twelve weeks in cardiac rehab Friday the 13th). I feel the doctor is putting too much pressure on me. I feel stressed and depressed about it. What is everyone else doing? What is working for you? Sure, I want to extend my life for as long as I can but I think there is a limit as to what can be expected of a person. I am also tired of everyone else thinking they know what is best for me. Am I getting better or am I going off the deep end? I didn't have to deal with the depression initially after surgery but as I mentioned a few days ago it is coming and going. Is this normal? I am supposed to feel good, to be happy and glad to be alive. I am looking forward to a vacation next week and will celebrate my 49th birthday. Hubby is taking me to see the ocean. I have never been. It's been a dream since I was a little girl. Perhaps things will be better after the vacation. I enjoy reading the message in this club. Sometimes I don't have anything to say. Sometimes I have allot. Tonight is one of them. Take care, Barb

A friendly note from your list owner

2007-04-19 06:34:41

Hello to all the wonderful members of this list. Yikes, just when I thought I was being a really good silent partner here, I have to dust off my administrator cap (its on the shelf with my nurses cap...yes I really have one). I do not consider Phil's post Spam. This list is about support and helping one another find resources to get through the recovery process. His information provides that, combined with the fact that he is a heart disease survivor. Please, in the future if you have a concern about mis-use of this list, I encourage each of you to email me privately at ann.mccrea@... and ask me to tend to the situation. I am happy to do so, and that prevents ill feelings on our wonderful list. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I now return to my lurking status, ready to answer any nursey questions which arrise (which I rarely have to answer because you are all so adept!). I'm off for a date with my husband tonight. Wishing you all continued wellness and healthy hearts! Sincerely, Ann PS For those of you who knew I was participating in the AVON Breast Cancer 3 Day walk, I DID IT! My team and I raised $12,000 for the cause and we had the experience of a lifetime. And I walked 60 miles and got ZERO blisters!

disability?

2007-04-19 01:10:23

I was wondering if any of you have been put on disability due to migraines? I am considering checking this option out with my Dr. I have been having migraines for most of my life but the last 5 years they have gotten worse and worse. Usually last 2 days with one more day needed to recuperate from the pain and Imitrex hangover. I keep missing work and I am so tired of trying to work while being so sick I could die. I am sure many of you know what I mean. Any info anyone can share I would appreciate. Thanks Suzanne

Hello and new support website info

2007-04-18 18:43:28

Not unless he starts flooding the list with it. Even commercial ventures deserve a post or so a year to let us know about relevant goings-on.

Low BP]

2007-04-18 12:47:00

Suzi, I was meaning more of lower weight. b/c if anything I'm under weight, but I hope I'm an average weight, my doctors have never said anything about me being under weight though. Take care, Tammi suzi@... wrote: From: suzi@... Added weight generally causes increased blood pressure, not reduction. Dehydration, perhaps. Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117

Low BP

2007-04-18 09:27:55

Could weight make someones BP low? Just a thought, I really don't know. Take care, Tammi

[Re: Depakote]]

2007-04-18 00:53:33

Jeff, let me know what your neuro says, and what you try next. I wish you luck. Hope you a feeling well. Take care, Tammi I see my neuro tomorrow and presume it's on to the next drug to try. He said we're about halfway through the list, so I remain optimistic. Jeff

3 diff. opinions]

2007-04-17 21:46:48

Suzi, anything is possible. I know I get migranes along with the constant headache I have. So I know I do have 2 diff. headaches at times. I just wish they could find something to help the constant pain. Hope you are feeling well. Take care, Tammi suzi@... wrote: From: suzi@... It is possible to have all three of those kinds of headaches at the same time. This does not mean that they have some idea what they are talking about, just that there is an off chance that they are all right. Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117

I have low blood pressure also..

2007-04-17 12:27:02

is there anything we can do to raise it up a little? Like eating certain foods? I cant stand getting dizzy all the time. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Jessica...

2007-04-17 05:58:36

I am so sorry you are having a rebound. {{{{{HUGS}}}}} They only had me on 250 milligrams of Depakote once a day. It may have helped me if I took more. Who knows? Do you get depressed a lot or is it just stress? What seems to be stressing you the most? Maybe we can help you come up with a solution to your problem. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Sternum Wires

2007-04-17 00:58:00

This may sound like a really stupid question, but after talking to my friend who also had the surgery about his experience, I just have to know. What happens to the sternum wires after you're healed? Will they "dissolve" or will they be there forever? I have looked in various places on the web and can't seem to find a definitive answer. I've read that they sometimes break and need to be replaced before the sternum is healed. That is not the case for me as I am several months out now and still appear to be doing well. Just something I need to know. Thanks, Brian

Digest Number 469

2007-04-17 00:24:47

They are there forever!!! You will always sound the alarm in the airports!! And you will always have a pretty design in all you chest xrays!! Alice

thankful

2007-04-16 10:49:38

today i feel so lucky, it is my husdands birthday and we are able to celebrate it togather. he had 2 mi's 5 stents and then a stroke i had 2 mi's and a bypass. all this happened in the last year! even though i still have pain in my chest it's not cardiac. a drastic change in diet, excerise, and rehab 4 times a week helps with recovery. a positive attitude helps even more. to live each day to it's fullest and appreciate life has become very important. he's my best friend and hopefully we will spend many more birthdays togather. life can indeed be terrific after bypass. grammie

Stretches

2007-04-16 06:54:24

Al, you are so right about the stretching. I found that I felt my best when I was up and walking and after I did the assigned stretching exercises for the day. The aches seem to go away and I felt refreshed. I was not an active person before my heart attack 4+ years ago but sine the bypass I have began exercising regularly and invested in a treadmill for the winter months. I walk 3-5 times a week now. Take care, Barb

dizziness

2007-04-16 02:24:51

Hi, I'm new to your group... I'm Blondielou. I have 3 pain conditions and the "chronic daily headaches complicated by a migraine disorder" diagnosis by Johns Hopkins is the second worst. The first one, however, is handled finally very well by opioids. I am no longer a patient at Hopkins but they gave me as a preventative when I left which I am still on Topamax and Verparamil. Anyone else on Topamax? It is an antiepileptic. I didn't think it was working until I ran out and when I was waiting for my mail order to come in my headaches increased in intensity and frequency.... I have very low blood pressure and especially with the heat here in DC of about 100 degrees when I exert myself I can only last about 5-15 minutes before feeling dizzy. I have taken my blood pressure and at it's lowest it was 88/55 (before you think it is the blood pressure monitor, my husband's at the same time was 138/78). Do those who are dizzy have blood pressure monitors? Maybe you might consder getting one to monitor yourself.... Blondielou

how long will it hurt?

2007-04-15 21:44:05

hi all, i had 5 vessel triple bypass in june and my incision and ribs are still sore my dr. says to be patient but won't give me an idea of how long the ache will last. i got life to live and want to be free to enjoy it without any worries. i had a m.i. in april and another in june and don't want to screw this up. grammie

3 diff. opinions

2007-04-15 10:42:10

I was wondering if anyone else has ever had 3 different doctors say 3 different things. I had one neuro. say I had a tension headache, another neuro. said it was a migraine, and then my MD says it's a vascular headache. I'm beginning to think none of them know what they are talking about.....LOL. I just wish they would have all agreed on what was causing me to be in pain all the time, but no one knows the cause. Hope everyone is feeling well. Take care, Tammi

What is REALITY? for Al and Bill

2007-04-15 08:17:49

I'm sorry you find yourself in the "cup is half empty" group Joe. You sound depressed. You may want to discuss this with your primary care physician and see if counseling / medication might do you some good. I've been through TWO heart surgeries (CABG and Valve Replacement) and I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit around and feel sorry for myself. Yes, I'm damaged, but I'm going to push myself to find the limits of what I CAN DO and continue to do so. After my bypass surgery, I went back to work and continued a regular exercise program, primarily walking, either at home or on the treadmills at our company training center. I spent most of my lunch hours (45 minutes) on the treadmill, with a 5 to 10 minute gradual warmup / cooldown and at least 20 minutes at a heart rate between 130 and 140 (220 - AGE) X 0.80 with NO problem. Check out the Post Surgery section of ValveReplacement.com and you will find MANY survivors leading happy and productive lives following their heart surgeries (and believe me, Valve Replacement surgery is another step beyond simple bypass ! ) I sincerely hope you will do something about your pessimistic and negative attitude Joe. THAT is your REAL limitation. 'AL'

Motto

2007-04-15 05:25:27

Hi all - In case I never mentioned it, the official motto of The Mended Hearts, Inc. organization is: "It's Great to be Alive - and to Help Others". Dottie (of Bill-Dot)

PROZAC

2007-04-14 23:57:33

HELLO AGAIN...lol I took Prozac also, for me it had few side effects, dry mouth like all of them....a bit of nausea, but nothing like migraine nausea....and I lost weight, about 18 lbs. total, had to try and gain a few pounds back as I was tooo skinny....lol.....after being on it for almost a year it seemed to stop working...my lows became very low, and tougher to increase again.......I have a friend who was on it also and she gained 22 lbs......go figure? hope this was slightly helpful hugs from roxie (ontario, canada)

Welcome Chris

2007-04-14 18:02:47

Chris, just take one day at a time. In talking to my husband who was my support person, my rock, during my recovery he claims patience, loving and endurance at the traits needed. I had a successful quadruple bypass and fortunately I did not experience the depression that most do although three months post op I have bouts of depression that come and go. My cardiologist says not to ingore them and that if they continue longer that three weeks to seek medical attention and they will prescribe something for it. I was so sore after the surgery. Getting up and down and especially when it came to going to bed. I slept with 4-5 pillows strategically placed (by hubby). Turning over was difficult and no position was comfortable for an extended period of time. I found the recliner to be the best solution for the first few weeks. Once I started to heal it got much easier. Your mother may not have much of an appetite in the beginning but that comes back as she heals. Walking is the best therapy. Walk with her! Once you are up and walking you feel so much better and it's good for her. I continue to walk and will forever! I agree with Al, get as much information as you can from the doctors and nurses and listen to what your mother is saying and just do the best you can. There will be days when nothing you do will be right but hang in there. I'm sure you will do just fine. Barb

still nervous

2007-04-14 11:21:00

Hi! I had a bypass July 5th 2002. Still nervous about what i can do an how i feel.try not to get depressed but its hard some days.Can anyone help me with what they went through? Thanx!

FOR JEFF---TORADOL

2007-04-14 00:28:04

JEFF I have tried toradol myself...I really wish it had worked as it is a non-narcotic pain reliever, the injections sting a bit but was willing of course to have a sting and get pain relief from migraine.......one ER doc told me it rarely works for migrainers....seems to be better for mild back pain then anything else.....it has few side effects they said, but I found I was "shaky" when they injected me....ask your doc about it, I have tried both tablets and injections....and it did nothing for me...but may for you------my doc looked at it as I was trying anything and everything, even if non-narcotic, so she knew I wanted relief of pain and not a "high"....and good God, does anyone ever feel a "good high" from these pain relievers?? I find the come-down as bad as an alcohol hang-over........I told the doc in ER at one time, if I wanted to get high I could go to the street corner and get just about anything,,,,the feeling of humiliation these guys put you thru at times is unbelievable.......I often wonder if street drugs would work, but of course would never try them....my doc is good giving me morphine for the pain...could use more at times, but know the relief is only days away till next prescription.........good luck....hope it works for you if you decide to try it hugs roxie

Depakote]

2007-04-13 20:09:47

Yes, I think Gabapentin and neurontin are the same thing. They all have two names and Depakote has three (Epival and Divalproex). So far the only thing that works for me is Stadol. Nothing else prevents or stops a migraine. I've had exactly two completely migraine-free days since November 4th, one each in March and April. The migraine is constant, usually around 2 or 3 out of 5, but until early July, every single day, it hit 5 out of 5 at some point. Since then, about half of the days it still hits 5, but the rest top out at 3 out of 5. I hope that's a trend. I see my neuro tomorrow and presume it's on to the next drug to try. He said we're about halfway through the list, so I remain optimistic. Jeff

Twist and Shout]

2007-04-13 13:49:34

Jessica, I've tried both imetrex and zomig. Imetrex didn't help me at all, the zomig does pretty good, if I take it right when I notice I'm getting a migrane (I get blurry vision or my hands go numb). Take care, Tammi I have a question for you all. What do you in your opinion think is the best abortive medication for migraines i.e. imetrex etc? Jessica

[Re: [Welcome to migraine@onelist.com]]]

2007-04-13 12:03:59

Jan, I wish your son luck, and I hope he keeps his determination, I know it can be hard. Hope he is feeling well. I'm going to go back to school a week from Thursday. I don't know if I will be at school long or not, I go back to the Doctor 3 weeks from today. If I am put on homebound it's not b/c of migranes it's b/c of a chronic headache (constant pain for over a year). I've been doing pretty good, I'm just always tired. Take care, Tammi Unfortunately they couldn't Tammi, we live in Texas and the laws and rules are VERY different here. I too hope he is able to grad in a year and a half, he really doesn't care if it takes 2 years...he's pretty determined and when he does walk up there and get handed that diploma we have already told him to look to the sky, we are going to hire someone to fly overhead with a banner that reads "Congrat's, you made it Jeremy" Love and hugs to you sweetie, hope the head is behaving, Jan :*)

help and advice

2007-04-12 21:52:17

Hi everybody. I had quintuple cabg on 4/22/02 after three angioplasties had resulted in a silent heart attack and platlet count dropping to 4000 (which is really low, should be around 250,000) I was back in a week ago with chest pain and the good news was the angiogram showed nothing major wrong. I can't take plavix because the docs think it might have been resp. for the drop in platelets so I take aspirin. Anyway, I seem to be having a lot of problems with depression and post traumatic stress syndrome. I understand that I am one of the lucky ones... I'm still here. but there have been constant problems with recovery and a real lack of stamina. After 4 months I am still feeling pretty fragile and scared. Is this out of the ordinary? When do you start to "be yourself" again? I'm 53 and had no symptoms when I went for a routine stress test. Thanks again for any words of wisdom. Ken kenrose@...

stilling pondering things

2007-04-12 18:52:59

You know I feel like I still don't have a grip on this whole thing completely. Now they did 4 by-passes on my hubby and then tells him he now has the heart of a 40 year old ( he is 59) .....they make it sound like everything ok and there are no worried, just don't smoke and eat a low fat diet and less salt. What doesn't add up is now the insurance companies are turning me down for future coverage, my Cobra plan expires in Jan 2003. They says he is high risk. Who is right? Is he now considered a person with a bad heart even though he has never had a heart attack? If the answer is no, then what does he have? Donna

Dizzy spells

2007-04-12 13:59:43

I have been getting them a lot lately. Especially when I wake up in the morning. I raise up very easy and don't turn my head much. But I still get that light headed feeling and then I am nauseous. Is this due to the migraines? B/c I haven't had a migraine for over 2 weeks and I am still dizzy. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Can you sign up a friend of mine

2007-04-12 07:50:53

She is from Canada and it is going to take me awhile to explain to her where to go to sign up. So can the list moderator e-mail me and sign her up? It would be so much easier. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

please disregard my last email

2007-04-12 01:12:14

I just went ahead and wrote it all in an e-mail to her. Thanks ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Check-Up

2007-04-11 20:46:41

I had my 3 month bypass post op check up on Friday. My cardiologist tells me I have had a remarkable recovery. All my restrictions have been lifted. I can have my red wine back at dinner. I got rid of one of the hypertension medications as my blood presure is excellant 108/60. Now all I need to do is keep on the low fat, low cholesterol, low sodium diet and loose some more weight, exercise, and I go back in 6 months unless I have any signs or symptoms. He tells me that I am at my prime (healthwise) that is. I am coming up on my 48th birthday. A hysterectomy at age 25, a heart attack and stent at age 43, a quadruple bypass at 48, yet I consider myself one of the lucky ones. If I am at my prime then I better get busy and do some of the things I have always wanted to do. I am taking each day at a time and enjoying it and planning my retirement within the next 8.5 years. 55 years old and 25 years of service and I can retire with full benefits. I do have a plan. Hang in there and take care, Barb

Prozac experiences?

2007-04-11 18:38:48

Hey all... I was on 200 mg of Tenormin (beta blocker?) and am having to back it down by half because of side effects (shortness of breath). My neuro. expects my migraines to increase in number and intensity but doesn't want to give me anything else while I'm decreasing the Tenormin. He has mentioned the possibility of my going on Prozac the last 2 visits and since I'm having to back off the preventative, has brought it up again. I've told him that it depends on the side effects and risks involved. Are any of you on Prozac or a related drug??? If so, what kind of adjustment is it, and have you experienced any side effects or noticeable results from it??? Can anyone recommend a good site for this kind of information? Thank you, Julie

Update Re:Help, please

2007-04-11 03:32:09

My father was readmitted to the hospital after his echo-cardiogram. They drained 4200ccs of fluid from around his right lung. That's over a gallon!!!!! He's finally breathing better, is completely exhausted and will hopefully get a long over due good nights sleep. Tomorrow we find out if they will be draining the area of the left lung or what the next steps may be. It is SO relieving to see him be able to breathe. Tomorrow, I hope to purchase a treadmill for him so that when he is able to start the walking part of his recovery, he can do so at any time, in any attire, and without having to go out in the 90- 100 degree weather. Al, thank you for your speedy and informative response. Sincerely, Lenny Noack

Debit Problems from Medical Problem

2007-04-11 01:41:06

Hello Everybody... Looking for a bit of advice or comment on a problem. Due to a recent un-insured medical problem and subsequent loss of employment I am having a significant debt problem. I have heard a great deal about the "debt management" companies and Credit Management councellors(sp). Does anyone have any experience, recommendations or warnings about these types of concerns. If anyone would rather comment or offer a recommendation, privately, via e-mail, please drop a note to me at the following... bizguymn@... Thanks for your comments... Mark

web addresses needed

2007-04-10 18:36:02

Can someone please direct me to some web sites that give info regarding the recovery process for heart bypass surgery. My dad is having such a difficult time. Knowledge and understanding could go along way to alleviate his fears and guide him in this process. Again, please respond on this board and not to my personal email. THANK YOU

Here is a list to help beat stress...

2007-04-10 12:04:18

The following is a list of coping responses suggested by The American Heart Association. To cope with stress, you can: a.. Listen to music, watch TV or movies, read b.. Write (a journal, lists) c.. Get information, ask for help d.. Attend a play, lecture, symphony e.. Play sports, run or do other exercise, stretch f.. Pray, meditate, do yoga g.. Engage in a hobby h.. Look on the bright side i.. Go outdoors, enjoy nature j.. Engage in humor, laughter, play k.. Get more rest, get a massage l.. Straighten or organize your environment m.. Confront the situation n.. Get away (vacation, trip, or camping) o.. Engage in deep breathing p.. Talk it over with friends q.. Talk to a therapist, listen to relaxation tapes, read self-help books r.. Bathe, shower, use a hot tub s.. ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Help, please

2007-04-10 11:19:49

My 83 yr old father had double bypass surgery 3 wks ago (7/24.) He's having great difficulty with the recovery process. Yesterday's doctor check up and xrays revealed fluid build up around (not in) the lungs. He stated on Lasix at 6:30pm. His breathing is very shallow and difficult. He's very tired and weak. Given his breathing trouble, he's not going for any walks except to go from room to room as absolutely needed. He has some pain just to the left, directly over the heart. He's frightened they may need to go back in (they have not alluded to this at all.) He has an echo-cardiogram scheduled for today. How long before his breathing gets better? Before the Lasix helps relieve the fluid build-up enough for him to feel a difference? He's very worried. Any words of encouragemnt or knowledgable advice would be greatly appreciated. Please respond on this message board and not to my email address. I'm visiting my dad (Stockton CA)and can't get my emails from his computer. THANK YOU SO MUCH

Zomig...

2007-04-09 21:41:11

Am I the only one who experiences rebound headaches with this drug? And my migraines always and I mean always last for 3 days. Is this normal? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

words of wisdom

2007-04-09 19:32:29

I just got this from a friend. Dottie TODAY Outside my window, a new day I see And only I can determine What kind of day it will be. It can be busy and sunny, laughing and gay, Or boring and cold, unhappy and gray. My own state of mind is the determining key, For I am the only person I let myself be. I can be thoughtful and do all I can to help, Or be selfish and think of just myself. I can enjoy what I do and make it seem fun, Or gripe and complain and make it hard on someone. I can be patient with those who I may not understand, Or belittle and hurt them as much as I can. But I have fatih in myself, and believe what I say and I personally intend to make the best of each day.

Jessica

2007-04-09 12:59:58

When I get stressed out a migraine follows closely behind. I have been trying not to let things get to me (very hard to do)! Depakote did nothing and I mean absolutely nothing for me. How many milligrams are you taking? ----- Melissa D. Morgan ellison7@...

Driving was re: 4 months post op

2007-04-09 03:13:03

RIGHT ON Dave ! Our hospital also recommends that heart surgery patients ride in the BACK seat if there is an Air Bag in front of the front passenger seat. Of course this is also a risk for the Driver's seat. 'AL'

A POEM FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER

2007-04-09 03:02:53

DEAR FRIENDS I was so very happy to find out a few days ago that one of my poem are to be published.....it was written on a night I was unable to sleep due to the pain level of a migraine....I do tend to write alot when in pain, helps me to focus elsewhere sometimes....it may seem a bit cynical, but I am sure everyone here can relate to it.....please give me your opinion, and feel free to forward it or use it in any way you wish---if it helps one person to understand what we go thru then it is worth the time. hugs to all roxie

recovery ups &amp; downs

2007-04-08 21:47:01

I hope so because we've decided to go ahead with our Las Vegas trip 8/24 which will be my 5th week after 3X CABG. I won't be planning any hikes in the mountains but I figure it shouldn't put any stress on me to dodge the maid every day if that's all I feel like doing.

Twist &amp; Shout-hang in there

2007-04-08 13:39:41

Hi! The message I just posted above was mislabeled - it's for you Robert.

driving

2007-04-08 06:23:54

This is one of my hot buttons, so here's my two cents' worth: There is a good reason why they tell patients not to drive for at least 4 weeks after surgery (6 would probably be better) (Is this the same recommendation for port-type , or minimally invasive CABG surgery ? ): That is due to the enormous force placed on the sternum when you turn the steering wheel ! I thought I would go out and just 'move' the car (as opposed to driving somewhere) to another spot - luckily I didn't do any damage, but I felt it as soon as I turned the wheel. Had to stop and wait a few more weeks before getting behind the wheel ! Harold

Vicodin

2007-04-07 21:11:59

Hi everyone: I hope that everyone is doing well and enduring this heat. I only have one question. If you have taken or are taking Vicodin for pain relief, have you experienced all over itchiness as a side effect? I know that this sounds weird but when I take a Vicodin I get very itchy all over my body. If you have had this could you let me know so I don't think that I'm am definitely losing it!!! Thanks Jen Tarrant

best abortive?

2007-04-07 18:57:28

Imetrix was the first 'triptan but by far not the best. Zomig & Maxalt seem to work better for a lot of people with fewer side effects but there are now 2 others out in the 'Triptan family that they claim are even better. One is Frovatriptan(Miguard) which supposedly has the lowest half life (stays in system longer) & lowest occurance rate. And of course I can't remember the other one! Wasn't there a new one that claims to work better on Hormonal Migraines? (yes, please!) ~Lyn~

Digest Number 453

2007-04-07 13:14:21

Lynn, I'm 46 and had a 3X CABG about 14 months ago. I'm sure that becomes a terrible temptation at some point. My surgeon's assistant told me - "Understand this, we have fixed your arteries, we have NOT cured you of arteriosclerosis". So if we go back to our old habits, we WILL have problems. I have tried to take the attitude that my present eating habits are not a "diet", this is just the way I eat from now on. Another very important point they made to us in cardiac rehab- your husband's logic is wrong. The veins and arteries they use to make by-passes are smaller in diameter than the original arteries, and it won't take as long for them to block if the conditions are right. Personally, I hope to live a long time, and I intend to do everything within reason to avoid a second round of CABG. Hugh

health insurance

2007-04-07 12:30:55

Does anyone know if it will now be difficult (if not impossible) to secure health insurance? Currently we both are covered by a cobra plan from my former employer, but it is scheduled to expire Jan 2003. I will then have to pick a plan for an individual ( for both hubby and I) as his employer does not offer health insurance. Thanks, Donna

Question n intro

2007-04-06 21:46:28

Hello All My father now 66 years old about 8yrs back has undergone angiplasty. Now he has been told he has to undergo a bypass surgery. I have so many questions to ask, cant figure out where to begin. 1. How life risky is the procedure ?Wat is the survival rate ? 2. IF all goes fine wat is the estimated recovery period ? as we go further iam sure i will have many questions .. Will appreciate feed back ! Yogesh

Twist and Shout

2007-04-06 16:51:28

Have got a migraine. Cannot take any painkillers. Want to die. Have you any suggestions. Doc says I must not take anymore painkillers. How long do I have to go on like this. I'm driving my family bannanas. Mybe I'm just drying out! What do you think? Robert

4 months post op

2007-04-06 16:02:30

I just thought I would post a few words about my situation just in case it might help someone else. I know that reading messages here was a great comfort to me in the first weeks after surgery. Last week I had my 4 month anniversary of my emergency 6x bypass surgery. I feel better now than I have felt in several years. I have been fairly successful at changing my horrid, bad-eating, sedentary lifestyle. I exercise regularly now, walking mostly, and I have learned how easy it really is to have a healthy diet. Giving up all those greasy cheeseburgers and pizza and french fries, etc. is not all that hard. Just like the guy on those commercials, I have found Subway to be a great place for lunch, but I may sprout wings if I eat any more turkey, hehehe. I have lost about 25 pounds so far, but I still have another 50 to go before I reach my goal. As long as I pursue the slow and steady course I am on now, I know I can get there. It has certainly not been a bed of roses. Like most, I had my bouts with depression in the early weeks, as my own mortality and the consequences of my lifestyle slapped me in the face, but it does get better. It truly does just take time. I found that learning as much as you I could about everything related to my situation has been a great help and the internet is a fantastic place to find nearly about anything. I did not have the luxury of knowing all the details of what I was going to experience beforehand, since my surgery was performed the same day after they discovered 90% blockage in my left main during a cath test. But this site and all the other great sites that many here suggested have been of great benefit. I just wanted to say thanks to all that helped me here, and to tell all those facing bypass surgery that life can truly start again, and though there will be some tough going, life can be fun again. Smiling Jim

Message Too Large

2007-04-06 03:38:39

Suzi Kaplan, MA Haight Ashbury Free Clinics, Inc. Drug Detoxification, Rehabilitation and Aftercare Program Pharmacologic Research Unit 603 Clayton Street San Francisco, CA 94117 The only problem with not sending the original text is that I frequently don't remember a thread too well, and like to review the material that leads to the answer. I find it difficult when the old text is cut and pasted into the new document, as this is confusing to read through, especially when the post is strangely formatted. I would just assume get a post with all of the new material at the top (above the old text). This way the original text is there if I need to refer to it, but I don't have to scroll through it all to get to the new text. Perhaps people could just pull out the salient points to which they are responding, and put them at the end of their new message? Just a thought toward solving this problem.

New device for detecting blood clots

2007-04-06 03:38:33

New device finds silent clots, may help prevent strokes Aug 05 (American Heart Association) - For the first time, a device has precisely detected tiny blood clots that can enter brain blood vessels during heart surgery, an advance that may help prevent stroke-causing blood clots and memory loss. Researchers report the findings of two preliminary studies in the August issue of Stroke: Journal of the American Heart Association. The device, called multifrequency transcranial Doppler (MTCD) ultrasound, also allows physicians to distinguish between blood clots and gas bubbles that often enter the bloodstream during heart procedures and surgery. Transcranial Doppler ultrasound uses sound waves transmitted through the skull to create images that allow physicians to study blood flow through vessels in the brain. The conventional transcranial Doppler generates sound waves at just one frequency. The MTCD device generates sound waves at two frequencies. "The distinction is important because a solid clot reflects back more ultrasound signal at the higher frequency, but gaseous bubbles reflect back more signal at the lower frequency," says study author David Russell, M.D., professor of neurology at The National Hospital, Oslo, Norway. The technology, available in Europe but not in the United States, could greatly reduce one of the most common complications of coronary bypass surgery. In 1999, 355,000 Americans underwent bypass surgery, according to the American Heart Association. Russell says as many as 50 percent of coronary bypass patients experience cognitive decline such as memory loss. Tiny clots that cause minor, symptomless strokes during the surgery lead to this impairment. Conventional monitoring doesn?t detect those tiny clots, he says. "In the past, we could detect something entering the arteries of the brain, but we could not tell if it was a very small gas bubble or blood clot. It was like a policeman who could detect a speeding vehicle but didn't know whether it was a small car or a large truck," Russell says. "With multifrequency transcranial Doppler, we can detect these small clots automatically when they come into the brain, and the surgeon can change the technique to make it safer for the patient." Noting that bypass surgery can last as long as four hours, Russell says the device can provide prolonged monitoring for blood clots. In the two articles, Russell and Rainer Brucher, Ph.D., professor of neurology at Ulm University of Applied Sciences in Germany, report findings from a laboratory study and a clinical study involving 15 patients with mechanical heart valves and 45 patients with narrowing of the carotid (neck) arteries. First, they evaluated the effectiveness of multifrequency ultrasound in detecting material entering the brain through the bloodstream. It proved highly accurate, classifiying 100 percent of solid and gaseous objects and ruling out 99.3 percent (596 of 600) of artificially generated clots in a laboratory study. In patients, the device identified 98.6 percent (546 of 554) of the gas and solid objects, and it correctly ruled out 98.9 percent (791 of 800) of artificially generated clots. In the second article, they evaluated the technology's ability to distinguish between solid and gaseous clots. Knowing the type of material could help determine the origin of a clot and point to therapies or changes in surgical procedures to prevent clot formation, Russell explains. In the laboratory portion, researchers used MTCD to distinguish between solid plastic balls and gas bubbles flowing through a silicon tube immersed in water. It correctly identified 95.1 percent of the objects overall. Of 159 plastic balls, it classified 152 (95.6 percent) as solid and seven (4.4 percent) as uncertain but apparently solid. Of 105 gas bubbles, the instrument classified 99 (94.3 percent) as gaseous and six (5.7 percent) as uncertain gaseous. In the clinical portion, researchers used MTCD to monitor blood flow through the patients' middle cerebral artery. The device accurately categorized 98.6 percent of clot-related events as solid or gaseous in heart valve patients and 94 percent of events in patients with narrowing of the neck artery. It detected 514 clots in mechanical heart valve patients. MTCD classified 433 (84.2 percent) as gaseous, 74 (14.4 percent) as solid, and seven (1.4 percent) as uncertain. Mechanical heart valves often generate gaseous and solid clots, but the significance of the clots is unclear, say Russell and Brucher. Movement of the valve components may create the gas bubbles, and clots may arise on valves from stimulation of platelets (the blood components that form clots) or accumulation of coagulated material on the valve, they say. "We hope the detection of blood clots in these patients will help us identify those most at risk of stroke," Russell says. In patients with narrowed carotid arteries, clots can arise at the site of narrowing and break free and travel through the blood stream to the bra